VIDEO: Doctor Who: A 50th Anniversary Tribute

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A week before its grand 50th anniversary, Sofie takes a look back at the phenomenon of Doctor Who (which also happens to be one of her favorite shows), and talks about why she finds it so appealing.

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  • Muthsarah

    You’re tan! Whereyabeendoin’?

    About Who being aimed for children. I’m still pretty new to the franchise, and, well, it felt campy and silly right from the onset, which does correlate pretty strongly to low-budget, chintsy-looking kids’ television (at least the stuff I grew up with, before the Pokeemans), but WAS it really aimed at children, back in the day, or even in the relaunch? I figured it was camp aimed at the older set, and that there wouldn’t be enough, I dunno, stupid kidsishness to have much appeal to the youngest set. Sure, there are monsters, but…well…they just don’t seem to be on the same wavelength as the brightly-colored, goofy, bouncing-off-the-walls-singing monsters I typically associate with kids’ programming. Then again, while I’m not that young, neither am I that old. Maybe I’m the perfect age to just not get it.

    Anyway, when you said that old Who was one of the few shows for kids, did you mean that it was one of the few shows appropriate for kids (which would surprise me, given that there were so few channels and that TV seems to have been made for kids’ attention spans, not to mention parents’ groups with their “won’t someone think of the children!!”), or that, right from the start, it was intended to appeal as much to kids as to adults? As a kid, I didn’t even know Doctor Who existed (seriously, I was almost in college when I first heard of its very existence, and even then, as something terribly obscure). Was the old show really popular with kids? Was it seen as a kids’ show (that “childish, silly” adults just happen to like as well)? Most of all, was the show intended to be a children’s show? I honestly don’t know, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was. I just never saw it that way.

    Then again, the only reason I know anything about Doctor Who is because of New Who, and the only people I know who talk about it are all adults. It’s rather confusing.

    P.S. For future reference, the “hind” in “hindsight” is pronounced like smooshing “high” and “end” together. Like “behind”, not like in “wind”. …Unless you’re using “wind” as a verb. Yeah. English. Yay!

    • Sofie Liv

      Doctor Who was by design, designed to be a kids show, being a way to teach kids History lessons (for real.)

      As it happens though, many of the themes in Doctor who has been very adult, right from the start, though that is more due to what the writers felt like writing, and back then, Parents cared way less about what their children would watch, so they wouldn’t complain as much. If at all.

      The adults didn’t complain, so the childrens shows could end up being very adult!

      The new show, ones again, is written by fans by the old show whom are now adult, so they are mostly just writing what they want to see, which ones again, is pretty dark stuff.

      But that doesn’t change that Doctor who is very childish by heart, it has to be, otherwise this concept wont work, and it wont be as fun.

      Oh.. thanks.. you’re right.. English.. yeah.. -_-;

      And now I did not get a tan, it’s just pretty dark out-side right now so I am sitting in the shadow, which makes the set kind of dark.
      Actually I am whither now that I am doing summer-time.. I did colour my hair red though. AND NO ONE HAS NOTICED!
      Not even in my last video, the thor review, where the light is really good, and it should be very obvious that my hair is red now!

      • Muthsarah

        I still don’t notice it. Much, at least. How are we supposed to see if you’re a redhead if your skin looks bronzed and you’re hanging out in the dark? I wanna see pale-skinned, flame-haired Sofie, and I think I speak for everyone. Alive.

        • Sofie Liv
          • Muthsarah

            I deliberately skipped that video, since I’ve been on the fence about seeing that movie for at least a week, and I didn’t want to risk spoilers. I still don’t know if I’m gonna do it. I saw the first only on Netflix (meaning, effectively free), and it just wasn’t my thing. I’ll see the sequel for free, I guess, but….anyway, I guess the most positive thing to say is that I missed you during your long Thor-and-anime absence. Please continue talking about stuff that I think I know at least a little something about Kthxbai.

          • Sofie Liv

            You can watch my anime videos without knowing any-thing anime.

            The idea behind that list was kind of to introduce some people to my favourite shows, and talk about them.

            And if you want to see how my hair looks, just turn off the sound, and take a quick look at the hair..

            Well.. can’t please every-one I guess, we all got different taste.

      • danbreunig

        Hey, I noticed. I just didn’t think it was dyed, just a matter of high or low lighting in the room. And red? [sobbing] No, I don’t want to miss the Blonde Dane, WHY?
        And that coming from a guy with Hemsworth hair. Not his looks, just the hair and sometimes beard. :/

        • Sofie Liv

          No… I dyed it.. with natural henna colour.

          I just felt like trying it, every-one else like it. What’s your problem!? *sob*

          • Muthsarah

            But we love you, regardless of your hair color! Don’t get upset over HIM!

          • danbreunig

            Um, she doesn’t get upset over anyone, much less lose an argument.
            And don’t worry, my own love (or anyone else’s) won’t grow less because of it. 🙂

          • danbreunig

            First off, let me just point out that your video here generated forty comments as of this one within the first two hours of posting. That’s how beloved you are.

            Second–what were we talking about, Doctor Who, or something…?

            Third, it’s your head, do what you want with it; we all have the right. What’s my problem? I guess too sudden a change, even a good one (especially since I’m going through a challenging one currently).

            Hm, Doctor Who content-wise… Well–I did draw Sofie surrounded by various Daleks once. Does that count for something Doctor Who related?

        • She wanted to be Ginger for the Doctor.

    • danbreunig

      I just thought she had the lights turned low…but “whereyabeendoin’?” indeed.

      I’m sure what makes sci-fi fantasy so, well, sci-fi fantasy is that ever present young-at-heart factor. It’s near impossible to imagine without suspending disbelief. So your question is a pretty good one. Doctor Who can really appeal to the young-at-heart and actual young at the same time, maybe more so the further back you go. But at the very beginning in television’s infancy? I can see that “kid’s show” factor in the U.K. then just like the earliest U.S. TV had the old time childhood and/or adult Westerns like The Lone Ranger, Lassie, Rogers & Evans, and the sci-fi like Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon (that’s all Grandma & Grandpa stuff to my age range), and any shows that originally started as radio programs.

      Now there’s a question: did 1963 Doctor Who start as its own show from scratch, or was it started before as a radio show or book series or what have you?

      Same thing here with me, Muthsarah–I’ve seen maybe a whopping ten episodes of Who in my lifetime, only two complete eps of 2005-era and a sprinkling of early/mid 80s PBS fare which was primarily the Tom Baker era. My bros were into it more than I was just because I was too little to get any sci-fi, except “it looks cool and I know who’s who and what they’re about–yay!” So I’m no Whovian myself–I know the primaries (Who himself, Daleks, some companions), but not to the point where I know one companion from another.

      Whovian: “Lucy’s so awesome, but she’s no Amy.”

      Me: [pause] “Um, okay…good for them?”

      Ah yes, Dearest Madman. I’m so doing a fanart now.

  • MichaelANovelli

    A well-made video, even if Doctor Who continues to be the bane of my existence…

    • danbreunig

      Is that because of being the odd one out who’s not a Whovian? Dude, that was how I felt a few reviews ago with non-stop Pokemon from throughout the Booth. It actually made me regret a little bit about not being a kid in the 90s.

      • Muthsarah

        Does that mean you’re an 80s kid (which I, kinda sorta technically but not really but even more kinda yeah) were, or a millenial, like Miss Liv?

        For the record, I’m not a Whovian. I’d like to be, as I love the idea of discovering a new geekish fandom, but I’ve been struggling through the show. And I wish I hadn’t been. I want to love it more than I do, so I hope I’m just missing something. Hence, the constant questioning and wanting to understandening.

        • danbreunig

          Most Boothers (I’m guessing ninety percent) are millenials, so that makes me about ten to fifteen years older than the average Boother. Although I feel like I’m still a babe in the woods who hasn’t left twenty yet, if that answers your question.

          I’m in that same boat. So many folks here and around me keep telling me “this is great, go check it out!”, and I just can’t jump into those good shows because I can’t take in so much of a good show in short time. I know I’m missing out, but I also can’t “just do it” while so many others can.

          • MichaelANovelli

            I’m a child of the 80’s and a bonafide 90’s kid!

          • Sofie Liv

            What’s millenials?

            I’m born in 89, so I am a nineteens kid if that is what you are asking. I was high on spicegirls when i was a little girl. That was just the big thing for me back then.

            And Pokemon… And Dragon Ball… And Barbie dolls… and all that other stuff from back then.

          • Muthsarah

            Pokemon and the Spice Girls? I think you would classify as a millenial. I think the word means “someone who came of age at or shortly after the turn of the millenium”. I was born in ’87, so I’m really not much older than you, but it sure seems I am. Like someone drew a thick, black line and we just ended up on either sides of it. Then again, I’m the baby of the family and grew up, pop culturally, with the stuff my older sibs liked, so I probably impressed older than I actually am. Not that I understand what millenials are all about. I’m a 90s kid, literally, and an 80s kid functionally.

          • Sofie Liv

            Things also were kind of belated before they made it to Denmark. It’s quicker now, but back then, stuff like “Batman Tas.” and “Freakazoid.” which I did watch! Was a year or three behind in our television.

            Also grew up on the Disney renacance.

            Man! That was the time! going to cinema ones every year, and see a new 2D animated Disney feature! that was the highlight of the year!

            Hercules, Mulan, Hunch-back of Notredame, Atlantis, Tarzan.. I seriously remember watching of those in cinema!

            Sigh, good times, good times 🙂

            And well actually I am born December 89, so that’s almost 90.. oh hey look, it’s almost my birthday again.. i’m getting older..

          • Muthsarah

            Embrace the bitterness. Things WERE always better in your day. Today’s kids know NOTHING. THEIR movies are junk, THEIR shows are unwatchable. Join us. Join us in the dance of the damned!

            Grew up with the Disney Renaissance? You were born the year Little Mermaid came out. The movies I grew up with, based on video viewings, since no one took whiney baby me to the theatres (prolly for a good reason) were The Great Mouse Detective and Oliver and Company and Aladdin and The Lion King.

          • danbreunig

            Millenials are people in their early 20s, like you and your Booth colleagues (most anyway)–I don’t know who says that’s specifically “Millenial”, since that sounds like babies born in the year 2000. If my generation has a label it’s Generation X, which means I was 20 in 1994 and the then-current music act for me was Nirvana. But I don’t feel any older than you, so–seriously, I don’t know if that’s a good or bad thing.

          • Muthsarah

            I grew up with Nirvana, (and Pearl Jam and Soundgarden and Lisa Loeb and TLC) and I was seven. YMMV seems to be the watchword. I’d rather think the terms are meaningless, even if I admit they prolly have some merit, somehow.

          • Muthsarah

            Monsieur Mendo, once thing I’ve kinda always wondered, if I may be so bold: why is it that you joined the armed services? I know, totally apropos to nothing (and we’re already clogging this vid’s comments as is), but I don’t see no better time to ask. It seems you joined up at a tender age (pretty close to mine, prolly a little younger). I imagine it has little or nothing to do with your “cultural” generation, and prolly more to do with your familiar or fraternal surroundings, but still. I’m genuinely curious to know such things, since, really, I never woulda done such a thing. And thus, it is foreign, and thus exotic, and thus interesting and curious. Just that this thread is already full of a free exchange of ideas and disagreement over lifestyles and such. Again, been long wonderin’, just get it out of the way maybe. And if this in anyway ties back to your opinions on anything else (since I recall way back to your rather pointed critique on one Scott Pilgrim being on how you couldn’t identify with his lifestyle and such). This is rambling enough as is. Not challenging. Just…I dunno. Curious about you. I mean it as a flattering, and hope it comes across at least a lil’ as such. Because you are a rather interesting sort.

          • MichaelANovelli

            I joined when I was 19. As for why? Well, wasn’t much else going on, was there?

          • Muthsarah

            Firstoff, I edited the previous post, to add more explanation. I felt the first iteration left it a lil’ short, in a possibly deleterious or even dismissive way. Just a curiosity, is all it was. As for “not much else going on”, I can’t speak. I don’t identify. I only asked ‘cuz I was curious. I feel we’ve lived very different lives, yet I find your (I assume) genuine take on everything so fascinatingly different, so I just wondered for curiosity’s sake. Just that you seem so curiously aberrant in your taste, like maybe that could shed some light on it. I dunno. I’m not sayin’, just typing.

          • Muthsarah

            So….at what point did we become too old to be here?

          • danbreunig

            I never know what counts as young or old.

      • MichaelANovelli

        Well, it’s not just that. Doctor Who is like something that has been scientifically formulated to piss off me, specifically. Absolutely every attempt to explain the appeal of this silly franchise has left me more confused than ever, as everything people like about this show is, in my opinion, stupid. You may as well tell me how much you love Jersey Shore. For me, finding out that someone is a Whovian is like finding out that they don’t smoke: I no longer take them seriously, as adults, anyway. I try not to be too dismissive, but when they made Abed on Community a Whovian, I almost stopped watching the show…

        Well, maybe I’m being unfair. I can come to terms with people being Whovians, but non-smokers? Forget about it…

        • Muthsarah

          Unsubscribed.

          EDIT: Wait…..Abed?! You’re surprised that the quirky, nerdly, out-of-touch-with-everything Abed is an obsessive fan of a very geekish (no offense) show? I thought that was a cute running joke, even if I hope they never base a whole episode on it (I haven’t seen Season Four, BTW).

          • Sofie Liv

            I’m both a whovian, love the show. And don’t smoke 😛
            Never have!
            I am also strictly against gun law and violence, I love my herbal tea, and is a bit of a hippie. There’s lots of thing you can feel free to hate me for.

            But I seriously don’t get your film taste, or your logic in what a good film or series is, so I wont even attempt to sell the show to you.

          • MichaelANovelli

            Non-smokers just confuse the hell out of me. “Oh, we don’t smoke! Let’s destroy American agriculture so we can force everyone to share our live forever kink!” I’ll bet The Doctor doesn’t smoke, either…

          • Muthsarah

            Yeah. Burden of proof still lies on the side of those who WANT everyone to pay good money to inhale burning stink and die young in a pile of their own blackened phlegm.

            Those of us with taste and distinction would rather die of drink, thankyouverymuch. 😉

          • Sofie Liv

            I never try to decide over people what they do with their life.

            Unless they down-right invite me as you just did. I mean hell, smoking us not uncommen. It makes no sense to do it, but it’s not uncommon. And if it makes you happy, SMOKE!
            Just don’t do it in my appartment, I wont tolerate that.

            How-ever, if you are going to stand up and shout about your right to smoke, I shall and will point fingers at you.

            People whom puts themselves on a stage is just asking for it.

            Like.. I will not make fun of a Christian for just being Christian. That’s his buisness not mine.

            How-ever, I will make fun of the Christian whom stands on top of his little box shouting about how the devil is controlling us, and we should all turn to god or suffer. Cause he is just asking for it.

          • MichaelANovelli

            Touche. Now, getting back to the subject at hand, I just don’t get the appeal of Doctor Who. Some very nice people have tried to get me into it and have failed, miserably. I’ve concluded that this franchise isn’t for me. ^_^

          • MichaelANovelli

            Well, 1) it doesn’t smell bad to us, 2) I live in Virginia where inexpensive cigarettes flow like lemonade, and 3) most people in my family live to be 90, so “dying young” is kind of a relative term. Still, I can’t imagine ever wanting to be that old. Most of the time, when people try to get me to quit smoking by saying it will give me cancer, I say, “Well, I would certainly hope so, because otherwise this has all been a huge waste of money…” Mostly, though, I just hate this idea that suddenly everyone has to live to be 100 or America won’t get into the Olympics, or whatever the downside is supposed to be…

          • Muthsarah

            1) You’re the minority. Not that that invalidates your opinion, but it’s the truth. And you were once the majority, and you once pushed your views on us with Flintstones commercials and the like. So….never again, and such. Ball’s in our court. Or something.

            2) I live in Seattle. So we’re all communists, comparatively (seriously, the Republican party is only the third-largest party here, MAYBE, after the Dems and Socialists, and possibly the Libertarians). And everything’s expensive out here.

            3) Yeah, I’ve heard Denis Leary’s “No Cure For Cancer” routine. I get it. Who wants to be 90, and stuff. I don’t. But still, it does smell pretty damn foul, I gotta say. Because it’s true. Right up there with pot. Oh, wait, I just alienated the other half of the board now haven’t I? I’ll just keep sipping my beer and bid you good day. Don’t mean no offense, it just is how it is. Keep on keeping on.

          • MichaelANovelli

            Whatever makes you happy, amigo! ^_^

          • Muthsarah

            I AM happy. And I hope the evening treats you well. Thank you, Monsieur Mendo. Much love to you. 🙂

          • CaptainCalvinCat

            Ohhh, you so wouldn’t like me, Michael, since I don’t smoke. But to be fair: I don’t do that because I want to destroy American, Danish or German agriculture… but – because of health reasons.

            But – if other people want to smoke: That is totally okay with me – I mean, in Germany they just cooked up a law, that smokers in pubs should go outside, smoke there and then come back. And I can see, why people are pissed of by this.

            And doctor Who – again: I can see why people would not like the show, because – let’s be honest here – the entire premisse is silly to boot. But – to me, AS a whovian – that is what makes this show interesting. Silly and serious on the same note.

          • Sofie Liv

            you can’t take the show to seriously, you need to find your inner child to get into it.

            How-ever, then you do get pleasently surprised when the show doesn’t shy back and take you seriously as a viewer 🙂

            It’s actually also law in Denmark that you are not allowed to smoke at public places any-more.
            When it first happened, every-one thought it was bull-shit and it wasn’t going to last… now every-body enjoys it and agree it’s for the better, even the smokers agree on this.
            And I quite frankly enjoy it! I enjoy going out to have a drink, without having to worry about being met with a cloud of smoke when I open the door.

          • CaptainCalvinCat

            Yeah – in bella Italia, south france and so on – people are standing outside and smoke. Only Germans need to make a big “stink” out of it, saying “naaah – this is bullshit, we want to smoke inside” etc. etc.

            *shrugs*

            Like I said – in especially in autumn and winter I can understand, that you don’t want to stand outside in freezing cold, just to smoke…

            however – the political party, that proposed that Idea (Bündnis 90 / Die Grünen a.k.a. the green party) need to put up with being called a “nanny party”… and again, why I can understand that people don’t want to be patronized – when I’m honest some ideas, that would make sense are not taken seriously, when they are not a law.

            Minimum Wage, for example – which is a smart idea for the homo sapiens – is constantly viewed through the eyes of the homo economicus and as a business economist you can only shoot down the idea of minimum wage. But viewed through the eyes of your regular joe on the job, who gets exploited, so that the higher ups can make bigger profit, the Idea of minimum wage is suddenly very appealing.

          • MichaelANovelli

            “Even the smokers agree on this?” I sincerely doubt that.

          • CaptainCalvinCat

            Well some smokers might agree. ^^

          • Sofie Liv

            it’s actually true.

            I didn’t believe it when it happened years back, no one thought it would last.

            Everyone likes it now and just agrees that that is how it should be.

            it’s even nice for smokers to enter a public caffee, resturant or pub, and know that the air is going to be nice for them as well in there, and not nearly as stuffed. every-one benefits.

            And well, smokers are allowed to smoke out-side, there is even quite often a little roof out there for them to smoke by. They are just not allowed inside at any public places.

          • MichaelANovelli

            I haven’t seen Season Four yet, either, but Abed had previously been shown indulging in a variety of geeky interests. Growing him into a huge sci-fi nerd just felt a little too on the nose…

          • Muthsarah

            I never had any qualm with Abed as a geek. I just felt turning Troy from a “dumb-esque jock” into a geek on Abed’s level was kinda a stark transition. Sure, it made for some fun jokes but….what happened to his character? It’s almost like we have two Abeds now (as of the Third Season), just with slightly different types of asocial dysfunction.

          • MichaelANovelli

            Yeah, Season Three made a lot of…interesting decisions…

          • Muthsarah

            I still liked it, overall. As far as 22-minute TV shows go (some may call them sitcoms), Community is still head-and-shoulders ahead of the pack. And even if Season Three wasn’t as good as Two, and even if I have been dreading Season Four so much that I haven’t watched it….well….it’s prolly still better than most shows. It’s not much. But it’s something. Or it prolly will be, once I get around to it. I guess what I’m saying is: I have better things to do. Community is nice and all, but, it’s not the 90s anymore. Good-enough TV isn’t good enough viewing anymore; because TV isn’t all there is these days.

            EDIT: Hell, I have a lot more fun on these here boards than I’ve gotten from network TV since…well…I don’t know how long. Interactivity 4evAr.

  • quaz

    Ah Who in the theatre, its a once in a life time event, that’s only be shown in one theatre (literally) in my city of 900k ppl, that’s been sold out for weeks, with no rescreening till 2 days after it comes out on TV, on a day I have to work…there’s only one person who can manipulate the strings of fate into something so evil and vial…I smell the work the of the Master… Oh thanks for the review 🙂

    • Sofie Liv

      yeah, I can’t believe some cinemas here in Denmark actually decided to show it!

      It’s so awesome that I am gonna have this exsperience, for ones, that enternet signup thing actually worked.

      That’s really what happened, originally this was not going to be showed in Denmark, but a bunch of Danish whovians ratted together and made a petetition where people who wanted it, could sign up, and it worked! so now there are three cinemas, in the entire country, actually showing the special, and there is compleately sold out, all three places, I barely got to get a ticket, and I am so lucky, this cinema is not very far away, but in a neighbouring city :3

      Sucks you can’t go, oh well.. hopefully there’s some other cool doctor who things you can be a part of!

  • Richard Eriksson Hjelm

    Probably the best presented video thus far with your narration though it does make me wonder if the next logical step wouldn’t be a ranking of your favourite doctors

    • Thomas Stockel

      Ooooooh, I would love to see that! Next project, Sofie!

      • Sofie Liv

        Sorry, no, I refuse to rank the doctors.

        Also because I feel the doctors themselves are as much a product of the time they belonged to, as well as production staff and writers.

        Heck, Tom Baker almost counts for three different doctors in on himself, as he went through three different style changes. The darker more gothic doctor from the beginning of his run, the compleately camp, childish, silly doctor with k9 and stuff from the middle run, and the… urhm… I got no words for it guy, from the last of his run.

        I can’t do it, that’s a ranking that’s impossible for me to make.

        • Richard Eriksson Hjelm

          Well how about a video where you disscuss the different doctors and your own personal attachment and opinions on them?

          • danbreunig

            That sounds like a feasible idea to do–or is that just the same as ranking them?

            For the record, the most Who exposure I ever had was actually the Tom Baker/ K-9 era–and I was too little at the time to get anything that was going on, just that I saw that one time traveler called Doctor Who. Then there was the one or two big ones from the 2005 era, with one about the Angels.

        • The_Stig

          Here’s how you rank the Doctors.

          1. Tom Baker
          2. Everyone else.

          I just had a scary thought, Sofie. What if Day of the Doctor sucks? Hold me.

          • CaptainCalvinCat

            Good news for you – “Day of the Doctor” did not suck. It was no sci-fi-MASTERPIECE, BUT it was a neat little story, definitely worthy of a special -maaaaybe not for the 50th aniversary, there something with a bit more gravitas, more scope – more… MORE you know? – would have been more fitting, but… all in all it was great.

          • Sofie Liv

            I was in watching it in cinema the evening of the premiere.

            And well for me it was just a fantastic ones in a life-time exsperience. Only time ever I met up and over half the people genuinly met up in cosplays.

            Then we hung out, and as the show started with cheered and clapped and screamed at the screen. It was a ton of fun just to have that exsperience in the baggage.

            And well, the show is now officially put in a more light hopefull direction, that’s nice 🙂

          • The_Stig

            Yep. It was awesome. So many great scenes but there was one in particular that was just pure epicness. “No, sir. All thirteen!”I was already sold on Capaldi before, but with one extreme close-up of an extremely badass stare I’m now all in. I’ll miss Matt, but bring on Pete!

            Still though, I like to imagine it suddenly dawning on the Doctor that in all this excitement he forgot about the Zygons running around in the most secure area of UNIT headquarters.

  • George

    A ministry of silly walks poster…Was that there before I just noticed…Love it!

    • Sofie Liv

      yeah it was. thanks! I quite like it as well 🙂

  • The_Stig

    Happy Doctor Day, Sofie!!!

  • Gallen_Dugall

    Interesting, I didn’t know that the BBC sabotaged the original run, but it makes sense – I just thought this was a purely modern thing. One of the possible reasons that shows fail is sabotage so that the money can be freed up for someone else’s pet project – this is the sort of office politics that plagues Fox (and Cartoon Network for that matter) making them so terrible about supporting their shows.