VIDEO: Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)

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How adorable is Steve Rogers? Very adorable. Ursa talks Captain America, leadership, and donzerly light. Though she may have got that last part wrong.

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  • Sofie Liv

    Captain America, in every way imaginable, a true hero, the arche type of a hero to his core, and still ends up working.

    You know what I thought about his movie? … dang it’s actually refreshing to have a super-hero actually being the archetypical superhero without being a parody.
    Honestly! when is the last that happened? I tell you when the last time is.. the first Superman movie, that’s it.
    I guess people are so ups on their heroes to be bruty, grity and flawed that we honestly plainly forget what made heroes so awesome in the first place when they first came about, and honestly, even though his films are so archetypical and formulatic, the good guys is plainly just a good guy, the evil guy is plainly just evil.. and officially claimed to be worse than a nazi.. auch.. it still felt refreshing some-how and delightful.

    All though, what I would call “Captain America.” it’s theme.. the rise and creation of a Legend, we follow and see it all, how that little squirb became a super soldier, how he then became a legend among the people though without being a hero yet, then really became a hero on the field and thus is legendary cemented among the people, he did amazing things and its all documented, and then finally apparently died to safe the world. The rise and fall, of a legend. that’s Captain america the movie!

    • I couldn’t agree more. Captain America always seems to get the shaft when it comes to people saying who is their favorite Avenger, and that’s because they always say he is uninteresting and one dimensional. And that is infuriating, because yeah its interesting to watch a superhero, like Batman, who I might add is my favorite comic hero, be all moody and mysterious and use questionable methods to get the job done all for the sake of justice. 

      But that doesn’t mean there is no room for characters like Captain America, who is basically the Superman, to an extent, of the Marvel universe. He just does what he believes in and never backs down when it comes to fighting against adversity. Sure his methods are a bit simple and straightforward, but he gets the job done all the while being honorable and true to his teammates. And that’s what makes him great. 

      Plus I might add he was the best character on The Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, in my opinion.  

      • MephLord

        It’s hard to pick a favorite character since they all get a chance to shine.  I’d say it’s Hawkeye for me, although Black Panther is also pretty interesting as an Avenger.  Of course, watching Thor walk through the Leaders gamma dome unfazed, see him survive in space without a spacesuit, and charge head first into a freaking PLANET DESTROYING SPACE CANNON and survive, were pretty impressive feats.

        • Jill Bearup

          As I said to my friend Ardy just today, I love Steve, and what’s more, I don’t understand how anyone could hate Steve. It’d be like hating kindness and justice and decent human beings. 

          I really need to watch that show…

  • MephLord

    Ursa, once you get through all of the movies are you going to review Avengers: Earths Mightiest Heroes?  Because that series plays all the characters very well off of each other, just like the movie.  The stories are a mix of Jack Kirby 1970s esque super-science mixed with the Ultimate Marvel universe, and it works pretty well in the context of its universe. 

    • Thomas Stockel

      She might have to engage Joey in a knife fight to determine who gets to review that series.  The guy is very territorial when it comes to cartoons. 🙂

      Hmmm.  I smell a crossover opportunity here…

      • Sofie Liv

         then it’s weird he hasn’t come to threaten me with a knife yet, i’ve reviewed a couple of cartoons now.

        • Joseph Tedesco

          What? Me? Territorial?! Heh, heh heh… heh… (puts away blade).

          To be honest, I would love to crossover to review that series! I’m behind on the second season, but I absolutely adored the first!

          • MephLord

            I won’t give away any spoilers, but it’s a really good continuation of the first season.  Some of the characters they introduce I never thought I’d see them use, and the story arcs are all pretty well done.  I encourage you to finish watching it!

          • Jill Bearup

            First I’d need to watch it. Though I’m now thinking that I really should, somehow, because it sounds amazing.

          • Zekk_Jedi_Knight

             Yes, you really should, its a great show all-around. (And I should definitely get around to reading Discworld)

            Hell my only complaint is something I wouldn’t have even thought of till the movie did it better: Widow and Hawkeye as a couple (I know, I know, it’s more true to the comics) but I liked in the film that they respect and care
            for each other so much without being lovers, to me that was a much needed fresh take
            on it.

            Sadly it was too good a show to last past 2 seasons.
            …That, and Quesada and Loeb are idiots [well we knew that] for cancelling it, between that and deciding the Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon was a worthy successor to Spectacular Spider-Man I do not have high hopes for the Avengers Assemble cartoon they’ll bring in next. I really wish Marvel had never put them in charge of the cartoons, they clearly don’t know Jack! [sorry, for the nerd rage] 🙂

            Great analysis as always Ursa.

          • Joseph Tedesco

            Absolutely! 

          • Sofie Liv

            Guess you didn’t watch my TMNT video where I very specifically said I should get you in over a Ultimate Spiderman review…

          • Joseph Tedesco

            Sure, we can do that! I remember you mentioning it before the video; but I’m down for another crossover!

          • Sofie Liv

             I hate that show… so much.. hmm.. maybe at January if you are up for it there, no wait January there wont be any videos from me period because of mid-term exams. Feburary then, if I can figure out how to do it, if we should make a season run through or just review the first episode or what-ever.

          • I’d really like for you to do that review now. I may have been completely oblivious to it when I was in that video but after watching it, I really wouldn’t object to you and Joey having at it.

            Ursa on the other hand, has the same class and charm that she always brings to her videos, something that Ultimate Spiderman doesn’t have.

          • Joseph Tedesco

            Well figure it out! February’s a good place to get things going 🙂

          • Zekk_Jedi_Knight

             Yes, please rip into that show! The only redeeming quality is that it has Coulson, but even that is handled badly! Just like the hero roster could of worked, even been good, if they weren’t all characterized less well than cardboard!

            You guys should review Spectacular Spider-Man after to show all the ways it’s a much better cartoon… Please 🙂

          • Sofie Liv

            I always thought the biggest sin in any entertainment was being boring.

            I now admit that I was wrong, this show does a sin even bigger.. It genuinly talks down to its own audience! All the freaking time, it’s so seriously talking to its audience as if we are idiots on the ither side of the screen.

            “Look kids, this is a dillema, becuase I should do this, but instead just did that, as you clearly just saw, I am just going to repeat now to make sure you got it!” …. urgh

          • $36060516

            I felt the same way during the poker scenes in “Casino Royale.”  There was that older guy explaining everything to Bond’s girlfriend during the game, things that should have been obvious from the visual storytelling.  I wanted her to turn to him and say “What, do you think I’m dumb?” 

          • Zekk_Jedi_Knight

             I do like that movie a lot (assuming we’re talking Daniel Craig, not Woody Allen) but I don’t remember that scene (thankfully I guess, but next time I watch it I’m sure I will now!) that said your suggestion is excellent the lampshade-hanging played for the character’s benefit rather than the audience’s is the way to go and if Vesper had replied like that I’m sure I would’ve remembered that dialogue

          • Zekk_Jedi_Knight

             Wow, that sums up the problem at the show’s core very well, better than I could do.

            Now, even more looking forward to whenever you and Joey review it 🙂

            I look forward to both your insights, in addition to the bile (I actually watched the whole season and seeing so many ideas with so much potential squandered so, was painful =( )

      • Necroglobule

        Let’s make it happen, I’ll provide the Amok Time music. 

  • Necroglobule

    I like that your reviews are always so brief. Soul of wit, and all that but I kinda wish they were longer because I could listen to you talk all day. 🙂 But seriously, this is the review I was waiting for you to do. Since you’re from the UK, I was very interested in your take on a really, really, really American superhero. Cap’s the best of all of us, not just America, but everyone. what Captain America represents is everything that was good and can be again.

    • Jill Bearup

      Cap is…yeah. He’s the best of humanity and America too: he’s kind, he’s loyal, he stands up for those who can’t stand up for themselves…

      And don’t forget, I’m British but I was raised on Disney and a big chunk of imported American TV alongside the home-grown (and Australian…Ocean Odyssey, anyone?) stuff. So I really imbibed the whole ‘America is…’ message set along with the plotlines. So I am predisposed to love Steve, a man who expects, and receives, the best from people, and does all the things my 5 year old self expects superheroes to do, i.e. fights bad people and helps good people. 

      • Necroglobule

        Exactly. The virtues Cap represents aren’t uniquely American, but are considered outdated today, but that’s what makes him so great. He stands by this idealism fashionability be damned and lives up to it, and he is everything we should ALL endeavor to become. I’ll always consider Spider-Man to be my favorite Marvel superhero, but the Captain is right behind him.

  • I always liked the Cap, even without being an American myself. And I liked the film too.

    I was particularly impressed with just how different (and better) Evans is here than the loudmouthed Johnny in the F4 films. I wasn’t sure it would work with him in the lead, he’d be too boy-howdy for the role, but he gives Steve Rogers a tremendous amount of quiet belief, pragmatism and Rocky-like determination.

    • MephLord

      That plays a lot to how good Chris Evans is an actor.  And like you I’m not American but thought he was a good Captain America as well.  I can’t think of an ensemble cast as good as Avengers, although X-Men was also pretty good but didn’t epitomize comic book movies to the level that Avengers did.  DC, you have a lot of issues to work out, but at least give us a Teen Titans movie!!!!!!

  • Pratchettgaiman

    Did you mean to say Carrot when you said Vimes there? Steve seems much more like Carrot than Vimes to me (the kind of guy who is so honest and kind that he makes everyone around him honest and kind by default)

    • Jill Bearup

      “The whole of life is a rich learning experience, Lance-Constable Vimes” is a quote from Night Watch, where Vimes, in a timey-wimey thing, ends up mentoring his own younger self. It’s one of my favourite Discworld books.

      You’re so right, though: Cap is SUCH a Carrot! They’re both even Captains!  

      • Pratchettgaiman

        Ah, it’s my favorite Discworld book too! It’s just been so long since I read it I forgot that quote. Apropos of nothing, how do you feel about his announcement that his daughter will be continuing the Discworld books after he dies/is unable to write anymore? I’m cautiously optimistic myself

        • Jill Bearup

          I’m going with cautious optimism. It might not be ‘Pratchett’ but that doesn’t mean it won’t be a) Discworld and b) good. 🙂

  • Cristiona

    They did a great job with Cap, especially in the Avengers, where they managed to balance his good nature and optimism without turning him into the Lawful Stupid cartoon that Tony Stark views him as.  The scene towards the end of Avengers when he gives everyone orders, and they follow them, made me want to cheer.

    Also, I have to say that Dominic Cooper nailed Howard Stark and was one of the best side characters in any of the origin movies.

    • Jill Bearup

      I really liked the way they did Howard Stark. And the way that you can see a little of his progression, as it were, from reckless genius showman (and I wondered where you got it from, Tony) to someone who’s a little more restrained. OK, Iron Man 2 is not a great film, but the scene where Howard Stark’s film reel talks to grown up Tony, and the bit where Tony says, ‘Dead for X years…still taking me to school’ is quite poignant. 

      “Fondue is just cheese and bread my friend…” *facepalm*

      Oh, also, did anyone else notice that the new Doctor Who companion played Bucky’s girfriend?

      • Sofie Liv

         I love how well it came across that you saw him, and the way he behaved and talked and you went. “That’s totally Tonys dad! OMG!”

        Not just a carbon copy of Tony, but a person where you absolutely buy that they are closely related 😀

  • Anthea Alberto

    Oh my God, you totally summed up why I like Captain America so much, it’s unbelievable. I fully agree with you that he’s the character with the most leadership material, especially since it doesn’t come from self-confidence. I like how they portrayed his sense of responsibility without making it cheesy.
    The film itself was good, not reinventing the action/superhero movie wheel, but it benefitted a lot from its characters, especially Steve, pf course, but also Peggy Carter.
    Also, the fondue scene? I actually thought he was joking there and meaning it as an innuendo for sex. But then again, I am Swiss, so not knowing what fondue is is a rather strange concept for me:)
    Great episode, keep up the good work!

    • Jill Bearup

      I figured the joke was that Steve THINKS that ‘fondue’ is some kind of code for sex, because that’s what the kids do these days, right…right? But he is, of course, hilariously mistaken. 

      Thanks for watching!

      • Sofie Liv

         Anthea, Fondou is a form of food.

        It often consist of a pot of simmering oil, and then lots of small balls of things, such as small sausages, pieces of meat, mushrooms, where you put a stick in one of those things, and them fry them in the oil pan, to eat them freshly fregasied.

        Variations also consists of the “Cheese fondou.” where you stick the things into boiling cheese, so it’s now covered in cheese or, my littlesisters favourite the “Chocolate fondou.” where you have a bowl of melted chocolate and lots of fresh fruit around it, so you dip the fruit in the chocolate so it’s covered, and then eat it.

        I love fondou, when I still celebrated new-years at home, that was what we would always eat.

        I think that was the question Jill.. if Fondou isn’t an innuendo of sex, then was is it?
        … it also highly amused me that apparently lots of Americans didn’t know what Sharwama was before after the avengers, granted it’s a middle east food, but there’s sharwama shops on like every second street corner around here, and it tastes good.

        • MephLord

          I’m pretty sure Anthea knows what Fondue is, he or she said that he or she was Swiss, and it is a national dish in that country.  The comment was “But then again, I am Swiss, so not knowing what fondue is is a rather strange concept for me:)” implying that fondue is so common there it would seem odd not to know what it is.

          But it’s probably something that got lost in translation.  Also, I have no idea what schwarama is, although it reminds me a lot of donair meat when I checked it out on wikipedia as to what it actually is. 

          On Christmas Day my roommate/renter and I had a different style of dinner (neither of us really wanted more turkey) so we had a hot and cold platter (cheese and crackers and summer sausage on the cold platter), a variety of finger food on the hot platter.  He had never had samosas or empanadas, so I bought some along with sausage rolls.  He really liked the taste of the samosas and empanadas, and wants to do that again sometime.

          • Sofie Liv

            I miss-read, sorry.

            But I really do love fondou! it’s so tasty!

          • MephLord

            I’ve never had fondue, but I understand the appeal.  Dipping bread into a warm cheese mixture is pretty interesting and exotic, like sushi and BBQ (there are plenty of places that have no idea how to run a proper BBQ, it is a true science).  Being a person that that has enjoyed international cuisine you probably are aware of perogies and bison burgers, but I bet they aren’t that common in Film Renegado’s part of the world.