VIDEO: The Avengers (2012)

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Ursa turns the squee up to eleven and watches The Avengers. Or Marvel’s The Avengers. Or Avengers Assemble. Oh, who cares what it’s called? It’s awesome! Fanboys and fangirls, assemble!

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  • MichaelANovelli

    I remember The Avengers.  It was OK, I guess…

  • TheScottCSmith

    I’m with you on the squeeing.  Is that a word? “The Avengers” was a very entertaining ride.  The only TINY nit pick I had after watching it was, did we miss something on how Bruce Banner was able to control the Hulk in the end? Maybe if there ever is a director’s cut we’ll find out.

    • Liam Barrett

      I think the idea was it was an unseen thing, all those years alone off the map he just figured it out. Remember, when we first meet him, he hadn’t had a flare-up in years. Plus it just makes for an awesome reveal. Any kind of foreshadowing would have lessened that moment considerably, I think.

      • Sofie Liv

         Maybe there was more material about it in the cut scenes?

        But I also think it was fore-shadowed a little bit when Tony and Bruce had that conversation where tony goes. “Maybe there’s a reason you didn’t die? maybe this is now a part of you, and you got to embrace it and use it.”

        We also have never really seen Bruce Banner transform into the Hulk on purpose before, so we have never ever explored how the rules would be different if he ever did it volentarily instead of involentary.
        And well, several theories all-ready has gone that by doing it volentarily, Banner archieves greater control of the Hulk, or more of the Banner is present in the Hulk.

        Another theory also goes that the Hulk becomes so very frustrated because every-thing he gets out, he only gets out because he is so blinded with anger, but he can’t calm down, because the moment he does he is in danger of vanishing because Banner will fight him to take over again. thus the Hulk, even though not really being stupid, only just not very old, never get a chance to really develop nor explore, because he is constantly put back when he would have that chance to explore.
        Now for ones waking up, being needed and not having three tanks pointed at him, not being afraid of being pushed away because Bruce banner willingly handed the reins over.. who’s to say how the Hulk would react?

        • Liam Barrett

          They kind of touched on this in the comics a couple of time- it was once explained that the only reason it hurt Banner to turn into The Hulk was because he fought the change, in essence tried to surpress his anger, whereas if he just went with it he’d become The Hulk in the blink of an eye, like was shown here. Basically, it was a fancy way for the writers to say, “Better Out Than In,” in terms of your anger. The movie seems to be doing the same thing- all Banner’s problems stem from him denying his anger, essentially, so in coming to terms with it and admitting to himself, “I’m ALWAYS angry,” he’s more-or-less reclaimed control of his anger, and, in doing so, tamed The Hulk, to a degree.

          • Sofie Liv

             Well, here goes the big question doesn’t it?

            Is the Hulk just an aspect of Banner, some-thing Banner turns into, but he is still some-what Banner while being in this state, just controlled by his rage that now has free range and physical form to boast.

            Or is the Hulk and Banner to compleately different individuals, two different conciouses with own private memories, sharing a body?

            Because.. these two options really comes with two wastly different set of rules.

            If it’s option one the movie goes with, then yeah, you are probably right.

            How-ever, the comics really likes to go with option two! the Hulk and Banner are two different people fighting each other. Banner is scared of Hulk because its this big green monster whom destroy things, and the Hulk is scared at banner because at first, the hulk is nothing more than a baby, forced to wake up only when he is angry, usually wakes up to some kind of danger, and every time he calms down and is ready to go explore, some-one shuts him down, as he archieve a little more awareness, he realises the person he shares a body with not only wants to shut him down, but actually kill him off, without ever letting him life, so the Hulk is afraid of dying, and angry that he isn’t even allowed to try and life, because Banner keeps holding him back.
            Then of cause, when the HULK finally does evolve as his own person, he’ll just turn more and more hostile, because the world is so hostile towards him, and he has to life in constant fear, not just for an outside world that wants to kill him, but this scientist guy whom lifes inside of him, trying to take his body back and some-how get rid of the Hulk. so well, sucks to be the Hulk.. except for when you get to smash through buildings, then it’s pretty fun :)

            If you ask me though, it seems to me like this movie is actually going with option one.
            The Hulk saved Iron man, why did he do that? well, because Tony Stark and Bruce banner bonded earlier, simple as that.. also he had concious enough to hit thor as pay-back from their prior fight <_<

    • The_Stig

      Count me in as well. Squee.

    •  They do explain it: “I’m always angry.”

      Yes, it’s a bit confusing until you think about it awhile, but the basic idea is that he realized that just suppressing his anger was a dead end. He can’t just cut a whole emotion out of his mind, human beings don’t work like that. He learned not to run from the Hulk in fear, to shove him into a corner of his mind and pretend he didn’t exist, but instead to confront him, to embrace him as a vital part of his emotional being. He doesn’t “control” the Hulk exactly. He and the Hulk are simply no longer two personalities fighting for control. They are one.

  • Voting time! I think you could compare both Hulks (Ruffalo and Norton) and see if they’re really that different from each other…which they probably are, dunno, I haven’t seen the Incredible Hulk movie.

    • The_Stig

      Yes! Chris Evans vs Reb Brown!

      Spoiler: Reb wins. Anyone who uses the carcass of a giant bat which he had killed literally seconds before as a hang glider always will.

  • Cyvaris

    Start with Tony/Iron Man. He’s ALWAYS fun to analyze. 

    • heh… anal.

      • Muthsarah

        Thaaaaat’s our Porn Critic!

        • Jill Bearup

           Lands’ sakes, don’t *encourage* him! :P

          Also: hey Mr. Critic. Votes or Golf Tango Foxtrot Oscar.


      • Cyvaris

        Are they just letting ANYONE submit reviews now? Because if so…..well let’s just say I have an idea.

        • Jill Bearup


          On the Agony Booth, it goes something like this. 
          1. You have an idea for a show. 
          2. You make the show, and post it on YouTube or Blip or wherever. 
          3. You hang around, say, the Your Video Reviews section of the TGWTG forums or somesuch, to get feedback and learn how to make your videos better. 
          4. You make videos for a while. They get better.
          5. You apply to the Agony Booth, we decide if a) we like your show, and b) if people here are likely to watch it.  
          6. There you are!

  • Sofie Liv


    You do realise, this movie in its original cut was twice as long as what we actually saw.. so it was shot kind of like the Peter Jackson lord of the ring movies, just a whole bunch of stuff and first after that he edits it down.

    Am I the only one actually wanting to watch the original cut? X)

    Character analyzis, oh boy, you are going to go through all of them any-way aren’t you? so what’s the point of voting?

    Great vid, and great to see you liking this movie so much! it’s an awesome movie, I think we all agree on that. 

    •  “Character analyzis, oh boy, you are going to go through all of them any-way aren’t you? so what’s the point of voting?”
      If I know “Stuff You Like”, we’re going to get an episode on everybody from the Big Bad after the credits to that old guy who stood up to Loki.

      •  I sure hope so. I would love to see a character analysis of Loki. Seriously, I cannot overstate my undying LOVE for Loki. Quotable, slick, and badass, yet vulnerably, tragic and somewhat pathetic. Deliciously complicated and arguably does more to hold the movie together than any other one character/actor.

    •  Given some of the deleted scenes we’ve seen thus far, like the Maria Hill framing device that sets an inappropriately tragic tone, I’d say we’re better of as is. I certainly want to see the deleted footage, just not sure I need to own an extended cut.

  • Russell Brin (Facebook sux)

    This is my second favorite movie of all time (after Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon) and I loved this review.  It is definitely a fanboy or fangirl dream and was pulled off to perfection.  I’d like to see you do a review that no one else has done; talk about the Chitauri and the Other talking to Thanos at the end of the first after credits spot.  Now that it has been firmly established that the Tesseract can be used to open portals, I’m guessing Thanos will go to Asgard to retrieve the Infinity Gauntlet, and will be on a quest to collect all the Infinity Gems so he can, as the Other stated “Attacking Earth is to court death.” 

    That seems the most logical course of action for Thanos to follow, and I wonder if that will be a driving plot development in Thor 2.   I hope Marvel does use that as a basic plot, since that would nicely lead into such possible plots for say a Namor movie, where Atlantis is holding an Infinity Gem, and Thanos uses his mind control power to get some of Namor’s villains to attack Atlantis and steal it.  Namor doesn’t really need an origin story, he could maybe just have some exposition during the movie intro, and already be presented as being around a long time but never having contact with the surface world. 

    Meanwhile, in a Dr Strange movie, that would be harder to do to drive the plot forward if he has an origin story.  His origin is more important to make the character identifiable since he’s a human and legit doctor that had to learn magic to heal his hands.  So the first act could be him going to Tibet, training with the Ancient One and introducing Wong and Mordo.  The second act could be him going back to Manhattan (it would be cool continuity to have some of the buildings in the Chitauri attack still getting repaired, showing that Strange was out of the country and unable to help or be a witness).  With his newfound magic knowledge, and the creation of the Sanctum Santorum in the second act, he’d be made aware of the presence of an Infinity Gem, and would have to stop a Thanos minion from stealing it.  The third act could see him being successful, being made aware of more Infinity Gems and realizing that a team is needed to keep Thanos from acquiring them all…oh my Defenders movie you just make so much sense in that scenario.

  • Muthsarah

    Hmm…I’m still not convinced I should see the movie.  I like Whedon (really, just Firefly), but I’m just not a comic book fan, and I haven’t seen any of the other recent movies.  How much “crossover” appeal would a movie like this have on a habitual skeptic/contrarian?  Could it melt my icy heart?

    • Jill Bearup

       All things are possible. To be fair, I knew zilch-zip-nada about the Avengers prior to this, having seen Iron Man and Iron Man 2 and…no, wait, that’s it.

      It’s certainly more fun when you’ve seen all the movies (which I now have, except the Hulk ones, and now it looks like I’m going to have to order them…like, tomorrow)  but it’s entirely possible to watch it blind.

      Meh, you never know. If nothing else, I can probably guarantee you a couple of hours’ entertainment.

      • Sofie Liv

         I’ve actually saw all of the marvel films prior to this movie, I even saw both Cap america and Thor in cinema the year prior.
        And well, that just made the movie that more amazing to watch! But it also makes a great job out of introducing and explaining whom each character is.

        You can do it either way really, and there’s no shame in backtracking, that’s the only way to really get started on Doctor who at this point after all.

        The first pictures of the next Thor film has started hitting the enternet… it looks freaking amazing! it honestly looks like one of the battles from Lord of the rings, fantasy turned up an extra nodge, mixed with some norse mythology design.. I think I’m in love <3

        • Muthsarah

          In love with the film, or with Studly McVikington?

          C’mon, both Sofie and Jill, how much of your squeeful affections are based on the hunkification factor of these films?  Helmsworth, Downey, Evans, Ruffalo, Hiddelston, Renner?  I almost feel like the guys are shafted here given only the one token woman (even if she’s the admittedly gorgeous Scarlett) to tantalize them whilst their girlfriends violently drool over a murderer’s row of beefcake and general hotness.

          Jill, based on your personal recommendations – and those of others here – I’ll try to see if I can rent The Avengers next time I go to the video store (yeah, I kick it old school, but I have [url=]an awesome store[/url] to rely on, which I will support until their dying day), but I wonder: would I be better off putting off The Avengers for a week or two, and catching up on the other Marvel films before I take the plunge and see the (forgive the term) money shot that this film clearly represents in the Marvel Film canon?  I suspect the Norton Hulk would be the obviously most expendable film given the casting, but do you think I should see Thor and Iron Man (just the first, since I heard the sequel wasn’t so hot) BEFORE I saw The Avengers?

          I understand I’m probably being such a pest by obsessing over just HOW to watch the movie you two seem to love, but if I’m going to take such a plunge into strange uncharted waters (for me), I’m going to rely heavily on the opinion of experts so that I can get the very most out of the experience.

          • Sofie Liv

             What’s wrong with that? every single other big action movie in the univers will have multiple hot ladies for you to gawk, in fact alll the women appearing will be good looking, while maybe on a good day, we’ll have one good looking male hero, and even that is not always the case. (transformers.)

            To top it off, we are not only attracted to their looks persay, but their strong personalities.
            Just take Chris Evans, he was repulsive to me when I first watched “Fantastic four.” a pretentious, annoying twat, whom I couldn’t stand to spend time with at all.
            Give him a good part, the sweet, humble and awkward but very heroic captain America. :3

            We can also look at Exspandables, by your logic, them having simply collected all of that beef cake should be a big turn on for me.. it is not.. there’s no one in that movie that attracts me.

            Avengers not only presents with nice looking actors, but compelling characters they can be, compelling interesting attractive characters we girls want to spend time with.

          • The_Stig

            In defense of Chris Evans in Fantastic Four, the reason he was a pretentious, annoying twat in those movies is because Johnny Storm is a pretentious, annoying twat in the comics. I thought he nailed his role as The Human Torch.

            Besides, Scarlett wasn’t the only cheesecake in Avengers. It had Cobie Smulders too.

          • Jill Bearup

            Funny, I just got Fantastic Four from the charity shop. I’m plotting…

          • The_Stig

            Let me break it down.

            Michael Chiklis as The Thing: Awesome. Perfect casting. 

            Chris Evans as the Human Torch: A cocky douchebag, but that’s how the character actually is, and you just want to repeatedly punch his smug face, so in that respect Evans nails the role.

            Iaonn Griffudd as Mr. Fantastic: Okay I guess, if a bit bland and forgettable. 

            Jessica Alba as Invisible Woman: Dull as dishwater, by far the weakest link in casting. If there was anyone miscast for any role, it’s Alba.

            Julian McMahon as Dr. Doom: Does his best. Could have been a good Doom if they didn’t screw up the character so much. The injustice done in this film to one of the greatest villains in comic history needs to be seen to be believed. 

            The film is, in a word, terrible and hardly qualifies as “stuff you like” because I don’t know anybody that does like this film. I’d still love to see you rip apart this film and its sequel. Hopefully the upcoming reboot will wash the rotten taste of the previous Fantastic Four films out of our mouths. This is a superhero property that deserves to be adapted CORRECTLY.

          • Jill Bearup

            Heh. Oh, I wasn’t planning on being nice about it.

            *cackles maniacally*

          • Sofie Liv

             So you are plotting to torture yourself with a movie no ones like, writing and executing a script dealing with a subject you do NOT like, instead of spending time with you know.. stuff you like.

            nice plotting Jill, real genius, i’m trembling.

          • The_Stig

            She’s an Internet Critic, that’s her job. :-)

          • Jill Bearup

            My show’s whole premise is me talking about things I really love or, at the very least, find really interesting. 

            But that, my dear Sofie, is what The Movie Skewer is for! Sometimes it’s just good to take something apart and figure out why it just doesn’t work. :) 

            Also, I would LOVE to do this as a job. If somebody would like to pay me? No offers? Rats. :P

          • Sofie Liv

             I just went through Zardoz and twilight breaking dawn! i’ve earned the right to go on a rampage saying. “Don’t do it man! The movie is horrible, WHY TORTURE YOURSELF WHEN YOU DON’T HAVE TO!?”
            *Goes away to cry in a corner*

            Sigh, that’s right people.. you are living under a miss-conception, none of us, I repeat, NONE of us here at the Agony booth make any money out of this, what-so ever! we don’t. I would sure as hell love to, but I don’t.

          • The_Stig

            What about your Blip revenue?

          • Sofie Liv

             We seriously don’t get enough views to have any blip revenue to speak off, we would need en times as many viewers for this to even make a slight difference to every-day life finances.

          • Kids today!

            What about Winston? He owns the site.

          • MichaelANovelli

            All the money I earn from my show goes back into the site.  I don’t keep any of it for myself.

          • The_Stig
          • Jill Bearup

            Comment thread was getting a bit thin. :)

            Regarding money: in my first eight months of video making, I made $25.

            I get more views now I’m on the Booth, but in a really good month I still make less than I’d get from ninety minutes of my regular job.

            I’m not complaining, it’s enough to buy the occasional DVD to review and pay for my website (, by the way, pluggity plug). But yeah. I won’t be stopping because of that.

            I mean, as a result of making this show/being involved in the community I have: met really awesome people, had a part in a horror film, and really creeped people out through the medium of song. It’s good to be me.

          • Sofie Liv

             I’ll get my first over Blip pay-out this month! WOOH!

            But well, let that be a sign to you people, I’ve been on this site for ten months now, and first now I have rounded the 25 dollar you need to get before you’ll get any pay-outs what so ever, i’ve earned nothing from blip, I’m doing this because I bloody love it.

            And as Jill so wisely said, i’ve met amazing people! i’ve learned.. I did not get to be in any horror movie (Still not bitter.) but you know.. this journey aint over yet. I foresee lots of fun things in our futures.

          • The_Stig

            Thank you both. I always wondered how that worked. 

    • Connie333

      Put it this way Muthsarah – I took my mum (whose rare concession to anything geeky was occasionally letting my brother and I watch Buffy at dinner time) to see it on my second go around, and she loved it so much that took my grandma to see it on concessions day (where you actually get tea and biscuits and an interval -genius) and she thought it was brilliant too.
      I adored it.  It’s fun but not silly, the special effects are great but aren’t the reason for the story, and the characters are really well drawn and likeable all in different ways.
      I’ll stop fangirling now.
      But seriously, watch it ;) 

    • I ignored virtually all of the build up to this movie, found none of the prequels to be particularly epic, and absolutely loved The Avengers.

  • edharris1178

    Good stuff, loved the movie.  I’d go for a Hulk analysis as well, lots of material to work with.

  • You just wanted an excuse to put a Firefly clip in there, didn’t you?

    I empathize.

  • Alexa

    While I am not a Marvel fan (DC fan girl through and through) I still thought this movie was great. Sure the beginning was a bit slow, to which people had the gall to call it boring. It seems some people don’t remember the concept of build up and character development, and that’s really sad, and I guess we have to thank a certain Mr. Bay and his “Transformers” for such : P

    In the end this movie didn’t have me squeeing like you Ursa, but it still did its job of entertaining the hell out of me. And that did have a lot to do with a certain Avenger in red, white, blue’s posterior. :3

    PS. Do a Captain America analysis, he seems to get a lot of unfair hate…Poor Cap. :(

    • Jill Bearup

      I don’t know how people can hate Cap. It’s like hating puppies.

      • The_Stig

        It’s like hating everything that’s good about the world! If you hate Cap, the terrorists win.

      • Russell Brin (Facebook sux)

        It’s the Batman fans that hate Captain America, because he is more attuned to the needs of the people than the Dark Knight is.

  • While Hawkeye ended up being my favorite of the group (sorry, Captain America and Natasha), I do think a character analysis of Loki or the Hulk would be rather interesting. I look forward to you future videos, whatever order they go in! :)

  • Tedzey71

    Now, we all know whose getting the first character study…. HULK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO IT OR HULK WILL SMASH…. SOMETHING!

    • Sofie Liv


      Or wait… she isn’t in this movie.. never-mind then.

      •  She should SO be in it, though. Easily one of my top 3 superheroines of all time. I’m currently reading John Byrne’s run on her, it’s AMAZING.

        • Tedzey71

          Half Monster, Half Lawyer, All-out Badass! Though I do have a soft spot for Joe Fixit… must be his name ;)

  • Phil (his first name is Agent) Coulson lives.

    [I’m going to insist he’s only Marvel Dead until proven otherwise.]

    • Jill Bearup

      Practically all Avengers fanfic just *has* Coulson in it. I mean, they don’t explain how he’s not dead, they’ve just decided that he’s not!

      • The_Stig

        This is the correct mindset. Coulson rocks. Present tense. He’s not dead, just resting. Pining for the fjords.

  • A very fun, SQUEE-filled episode. Can’t wait for the next one. =) 

  • Torgeaux

    I was not a Marvel Comics fan when I was a kid and was never really into the superpower genre either exceptforSupermanandespeciallytheBizzaroWorldwhichIthoughtprettymuchsummedupgrowingupinthelatefiftiesandearlysixties…But I TOTALLY enjoyed every second of this movie!  Joss Weldon did a superb job writing it.  This movie deserves every film award from everywhere and some just made up for this movie alone! (Is there a best snark award?)  Oh, and nice job of writing yourself!  Loved the review and look forward to more.

    • Jill Bearup


  • 93MANIAC

    I freaking love The Avengers even if I am not a big comic book guy but I am curious to know what you thought about the new Judge Dredd movie personly I thought taht it was freaking awesome and one of the best movie I have seen all year

    • Jill Bearup

      Haven’t seen it. Have been told I should though! :)

  • Black Doug

    Wait, Jif is a cleaner in Britain? In the US, it’s a common brand of peanut butter.

    • Jill Bearup

      It used to be a cleaner. It’s now called Cif (heh, Sif.) everywhere. 

      I did not know that Jif was peanut butter in America. THE MORE YOU KNOW.