Star Trek: Discovery "Into the Forest I Go"

Previously on Star Trek: Discovery: Lt. Stamets is the key to powering the Discovery’s spore drive, but it’s been doing strange things to him, and he’s afraid to tell his boyfriend Dr. Culber. Lt. Tyler was previously held captive by the Klingons and kept alive because Klingon captain L’Rell “took a liking” to him. And then L’Rell offered to surrender to Admiral Cornwell, but ended up killing her instead… or did she? In the interests of getting the upper hand over the Klingons, Burnham and Tyler and Saru went on an away mission to the planet Pahvo to access a crystal transmitter that would allow them to detect cloaked Klingon ships. They got the transmitter working, but the residents of Pahvo decided it really would be in everyone’s best interests if they called in the Klingons for a nice sit-down chat.

This episode is certainly a big improvement over the last one, and one of the better episodes of this series so far. But really, one would hope that would be the case, what with this being the “fall finale” and all (new episodes resume in January). There’s plenty of action, and a couple of notable firsts for the franchise (including one that might be a bit NSFW, maybe?) but I’m not sure if it’s quite enough to excuse the predictable plots we had to endure last week in setting all this up, not to mention the progressively mediocre episodes leading up to it.

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As the Discovery continues to orbit Pahvo, that Vulcan admiral (Terral) appears on the bridge of the Discovery in holographic form, ordering Captain Lorca to withdraw immediately to a nearby starbase. Lorca protests the order, saying they can’t leave because the Klingons aren’t going to be satisfied with destroying the crystal transmitter, and are going to wipe out the entire planet as well. Terrel again orders him to the starbase and Lorca growls, “You want me to run from a fight…” Isn’t that exactly what he did in the previous episode, after the Gagarin was destroyed? He’s also concerned about an entire sentient species being wiped out, despite the Pahvans never being so much as seen in this episode despite their critical role in the plot.

Terral ends the call, but instead of ordering a jump to the starbase, Lorca simply orders the ship to head there at a leisurely warp five. It seems he intends to disobey the order, but wants to give the impression that he’s complying. Along those lines, he wants Stamets (who’s on the bridge right now for some reason) to pretend there’s a medical reason he can’t make the jump, and go to Sickbay for a full examination. Stamets hesitates, obviously not wanting Culber to learn about the full seriousness of his current condition, but goes there anyway.

Saru is also back on the bridge, almost as if him going completely nuts under the control of the Pahvans never even happened. He says he might be able to develop an “algorithm” to reveal the location of any cloaked Klingon ship. But doing so would involve beaming over to place sensors on one of those ships. Tyler says they can use the Discovery as bait, because the Klingons can’t use their weapons or shields when cloaked, meaning that once the ship decloaks to fire, they’ll have a split-second window to beam over. However, once they place the sensors, it’ll take “days” to acquire all the necessary information. Lorca says they don’t have days, but immediately knows that somehow, they can use the spore drive to gather all that data a whole lot quicker.

He heads to Sickbay, where Culber informs him that all the jumps have been causing massive changes to Stamets’ brain. Lorca asks if he’s experienced any “side effects” and Stamets lies and says he hasn’t. So… that’s it, then? The spore drive is just rewiring his brain? Are we pretending that scene where Stamets walked away from a mirror but his reflection was still standing there didn’t happen?

Lorca takes Stamets to his ready room, where he explains he wants the ship to make 133 jumps in four minutes, or rather “micro-jumps” that will allow them to get a “three dimensional snapshot” of the cloaked Klingon ship from every angle. Stamets thinks this is insane and refuses, so Lorca appeals to the “explorer” in him, pulling up a holographic chart that suggests the spore drive just might allow for travel to “alternate parallel universes”. (Plot point!)

Lorca says that once they win the war, they might be able to journey to places far beyond anything they ever dreamed of. And so, Stamets is on board with the plan to do 133 jumps. But why 133, specifically? Who knows.

Back on the bridge, Lorca tells Tyler to organize a boarding party to plant the sensors on the Klingon ship. Tyler of course recommends “Specialist Burnham” accompany him, but Lorca nixes the idea. So Burnham gives an impassioned speech about how Lorca brought her to the Discovery to help win the war, and if she can’t do that, she has no purpose here. Naturally, he relents.

In Engineering, Stamets is preparing for the 133 jumps, and Culber says he can’t stop him from doing this, but he’s going to attach a few devices to Stamets to allow him to receive treatments while inside the spore chamber. Ensign Tilly overhears this and blurts out, “I’m so glad he finally told you about the side effects!” When, of course, Stamets did no such thing, and we get another hilarious moment where Tilly realizes she’s jammed her foot in her mouth yet again.

Cut to a montage of everybody making preparations, as Lorca gives a pep talk to the entire ship about the enormity of the mission they’re about to undertake, but he knows they can handle it because they’re “fierce warriors”, and he tells them they’ll all remember this as the day they ended the war with the Klingons.

They detect the Klingon Ship of the Dead heading toward Pahvo, and so Lorca orders a Black Alert, and the ship instantly goes from traveling at warp five to a total dead stop near Pahvo. Damn, I hope everybody was wearing their seat belts for that one.

On the bridge of the cloaked Ship of the Dead, Kol observes the Discovery, and orders his crew to prepare to fire. The ship then decloaks, and Tyler and Burnham quickly beam over, while the Discovery takes evasive action to avoid enemy fire.

On the Klingon ship, Burnham plants the first sensor in a cargo hold, and it’s a pretty massive device that they leave sitting out in the open, even though it glows brightly and even announces in the computer’s voice, “Uplink to Discovery established!” Wow, that’s quite the stealthy device you guys have come up with there.

The next sensor has to be planted on the bridge, but as they make their way there, Burnham detects a human life sign onboard. Tyler doesn’t want to deviate from the mission, but Burnham says they’re obligated to rescue one of their own.

Tyler cuts some wires on a panel and they enter a room that turns out to be that burial chamber where L’Rell brought Cornwell’s body, and where L’Rell saw all the dead members of her family and swore to avenge them. And that human life sign turns out to be… Admiral Cornwell, who’s still alive. Burnham is able to revive her, but she’s partially paralyzed.

Guess who else is here? L’Rell, who I guess was locked up in here after the events of the previous episode. She sees her former boytoy Tyler, and ecstatically says, “It’s you!” Tyler instantly freezes up, and has scattered flashbacks to the gruesome and bloody torture he endured at her hands. He gets all sweaty and disoriented in fisheye-lens view and can’t move.

Burnham sees he’s totally frozen, so she stuns L’Rell, and Cornwell says she’s had experience working with patients with PTSD, and she knows Tyler is in shock and is going to be pretty much useless for the rest of their mission. Burnham has no choice but to leave a phaser in Cornwell’s hand and make her way to the bridge.

Burnham sneaks onto the bridge and plants the next sensor, which also lights up and chirps, “Uplink to Discovery established!” Good thing Klingons appear to have a truly awful sense of hearing.

Back on the Discovery, they detect both sensors are online, and now all they need to do is to get the Klingon ship to cloak itself. So Lorca orders another Black Alert as the Discovery jumps all around the ship, firing torpedoes from every direction.

On the Klingon ship, Burnham flips open her communicator, showing that she’s using her universal translator to understand what the Klingons are saying. Miraculously, this also causes all the Klingons on the bridge to suddenly speak English from this point forward, and Kol orders the ship to cloak, just as the Discovery crew wants.

Back over in Engineering, it’s time to begin the 133 jumps. Tilly loads a canister of spores into the drive, and Stamets tells Culber, “I love you,” and the rapid fire jumps begin. The Discovery jumps all around the cloaked Klingon ship, and Culber starts to get concerned about Stamets’ high pulse rate. He asks Tilly how many jumps are left and she matter-of-factly says, “96 more.” Heh. I wonder if Culber was the kind of kid who would always ask “are we there yet?” five minutes into every car ride.

Stamets is looking sweaty and disoriented, and Culber asks how he’s doing. Stamets replies, “There’s a clearing, in the forest! That’s how they go!” So, doing well, then.

Culber calls the bridge to say they have to abort, but Lorca says they can’t, so Culber just triggers an injection of a chemical to chill him out. Crisis averted. Culber looks through the windows of the spore chamber and says, “I love you too.”

On the Klingon ship, they detect signs of “sabotage” near the burial chamber, presumably because of those wires that Tyler cut. This causes Kol to figure out that all the jumps the Discovery is doing must be some sort of “ruse”, and orders the ship to go to warp. Burnham, listening in, realizes that if the ship goes to warp, the whole plan is fucked. So she pops up and starts shooting. After stunning several of his men, she tells Kol through her translator app that she wants to talk.

She shows herself and also her translator, which she says is proof of humanity’s “desire to communicate”. And then it turns out Kol just happens to be holding the Starfleet badge of Burnham’s former captain, the late Philippa Georgiou. Which he then uses to pick his teeth. Not sure why Kol would have this, given that T’Kuvma is the one who killed Georgiou and L’Rell and Voq are the ones who supposedly chowed down on her brain, but whatever.

Burnham responds by telling him that she thought Klingons where “honorable”, and that there’s no honor in taking over T’Kuvma’s ship. And then she finally she admits that she’s the one who killed T’Kuvma back in the second episode.

Meanwhile, other members of the Klingon crew are entering the burial chamber, and Cornwell tries her best to fend them off while Tyler remains catatonic. Finally, Tyler flashes back to kissing Burnham, which brings him around, and he grabs a disrupter rifle that’s sitting around somewhere and vaporizes their attackers. Wow, love can conquer PTSD!

Back on the Klingon bridge, Kol is thanking Burnham, because without the death of T’Kuvma, he wouldn’t be in power now. He orders her locked up regardless, but Burnham yells that he should “prove his worth” by defeating her in battle. Which I think is the Klingon equivalent of “put down that gun and fight me like a man!” Kol takes the bait and tosses a knife over to Burnham, and the two fight it out.

Meanwhile, the Discovery finally finishes its 133 jumps, and is finally able to penetrate the cloaking device. First, they beam back Tyler, who tells them they also need to beam out Cornwell. But just as he starts to beam out, L’Rell wakes up and pulls a Gillian Taylor by jumping on Tyler’s back and beaming out with him.

Burnham hears on her earpiece that she’s about to get beamed out, so she grabs Georgiou’s badge from Kol’s chest and leaps over a railing and gets transported away in mid-fall. Sadly, we don’t get to see her landing on her face on the floor of the transporter room.

Lorca gets word that everybody’s back on the Discovery, and orders them to fire photon torpedoes. He then walks toward the viewscreen and does the EpiPen thing on his eyes, because I guess he really wants to see what’s about to happen, light sensitivity be damned.

The torpedoes hit and the Klingon Ship of the Dead explodes into a giant ball of fire while the bridge crew looks on. Burnham and Tyler step on to the bridge just in time to see it, while Lorca just walks away in slow-mo. And then Saru gives Burnham a look of, I’m guessing, respect (hard to tell with all that makeup on), while Burnham stares down at Georgiou’s badge.

Well, we’re not quite done yet. Terral is talking to Lorca, and for some reason he’s on a screen this time instead of on the holographic communicator. He reports that Admiral Cornwell has been transported to a medical facility and is doing much better, which makes Lorca uncomfortable (for no particular reason, I’m sure). Then Lorca says he’s going to transmit the algorithm for detecting cloaked Klingon ships to Starfleet, which should reach them in less than 11 hours. Terral says that despite Lorca’s “unorthodox methods”, he wants to award him the “Legion of Honor” for his accomplishments in the war effort (which is actually a commendation that later gets bestowed upon both Dr. Leonard McCoy and Lt. Commander Data).

Meanwhile, Burnham goes to Tyler’s quarters to confront him about his PTSD episode, and what really happened to him in that Klingon prison. He admits that he did what he had to do to survive, and he wasn’t just a prisoner, because L’Rell took a “particular… interest in me”. He encouraged it because it was the only way to stay alive, and now he feels guilt over surviving. But he says that maybe it was all “worth it” because if it hadn’t happened, he wouldn’t be here on the Discovery now with Burnham. Which of course leads to another kiss, and much more.

Cut to Stamets. Oh yeah, Stamets! Remember him? The guy who was on the verge of death during the 133 jumps necessary to crack the cloaking algorithm? What’s up with him, anyway?

Well, it seems he’s meeting with Lorca on an observation deck as the two take in the star-rise over the planet Pahvo. Lorca says he wants to give his Legion of Honor commendation to Stamets, and they’ll also head to the starbase at normal, boring old warp speed so Stamets can recuperate. Stamets says the commendation isn’t necessary, and he’s even willing to do one more jump to get the Discovery to the starbase.

Lorca starts to talk about all the exploration they’ll be doing once the war is over, but Stamets says “one more jump” actually means “one more jump”. After that, he’s done, and he’s going to let Starfleet doctors figure out what’s wrong with him.

In Tyler’s quarters, he’s having nightmares about L’Rell, and flashing back to being forced to have sex with her, which eventually leads to a first for the franchise: Klingon tits. There they are, clear as day. Nipples and all. Why do I feel not at all shocked by this?

I was going to blur them out, but I made it through both Schumacher Batman movies without censoring any rubber nipples, so why start now?

Tyler wakes up with a start, and looks over at a sleeping Burnham, and then goes down to the brig to confront L’Rell. Indicating this is more than just PTSD, he asks, “What did you do to me?” She promises, “I will never let them hurt you,” and adds, “Soon,” which seems to imply Tyler might be on his way to becoming the Klingon version of the Manchurian Candidate.

Stamets is about to make his final jump, and step into the spore chamber for the last time. So he gives Culber a full-on kiss on the mouth, which I believe is another first for the franchise. No, no… it’s not the first same-sex kiss in Star Trek history; it’s the first time two guys kiss in Star Trek history. Which comes only 22 years after the first girl-on-girl kiss in franchise history. Progress!

Stamets promises that after this is all over, they’ll have a wonderful date where they’ll even go see La Boheme together, which doesn’t bode well for his continued health. Sure enough, when he makes the jump, Stamets screams out in pain. Ice crystals form on the windows of the spore chamber as Tilly reports that, according to the computer, this was an “incomplete navigation sequence”.

Stamets comes out of the chamber and collapses and his eyes are all white. He says, “So many… I can see them all! Infinite permutations! It’s… magnificent!” For a moment, I was everywhere. I mean, everywhere, Captain!

The Discovery is now in a strange, purple-hued area of space, and on the bridge, Saru has no idea where they are. Lorca wonders if that’s “Klingon wreckage” surrounding them. The camera pulls back on the Discovery to find it surrounded by the debris of other ships. So, the odds are pretty good that the Discovery has jumped into a parallel universe. Am I the only one hoping against hope this might be a remake of the animated series episode “The Time Trap”, which has almost the exact same setup? Maybe the Discovery will also meet a council made up of a giant teddy bear, a walking plant, and an Orion girl in a bikini.

And the episode’s title appears to be a reference to the quote, “And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul,” which seems to be mostly attributed to 19th Century author and naturalist John Muir, though I have yet to find any solid evidence he actually wrote it.

All in all, a pretty exciting, action-packed episode. And they were able to resolve a few plot threads along the way (Burnham avenging Captain Georgiou’s death, Burnham making her peace with Saru, etc). Also, for the very first time, the Star Trek franchise didn’t wimp out on showing an honest-to-goodness romantic relationship between two men. So I can’t say I have any particular complaints about this episode, beyond wondering why the writers couldn’t have also brought their A game the previous three or four weeks. Star Trek: Discovery should have given us a lot more episodes like this one, and a whole lot less one-offs like that Groundhog Day retread of a few weeks back.

I’m curious to see where the next half-season goes, but to be honest, I’m mostly only subscribing to CBS All Access for the sake of these recaps. If I wasn’t recapping the show, I’d probably just be signing up long enough to binge-watch the whole thing in a week, which I guess says it all. See you all in January!

TV Show: Star Trek: Discovery

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  • William Wehrs

    There were two major flaws to this episode though I admit this is one you could probably enjoy with your brain off which is better than most of the episodes so far. One, is Kol, the Klingon villain. He had absolutely no dimension to him, and really just comes off like one of those orc lackeys from Lord of the RIngs. As a result, when he dies, I greeted it with essentially a shrug.

    The other problem is the treatment off the Klingon sex scene. This scene was shot like a sleazy sex video which is highly distressing considering the two possible interpretations of the scene. One, it is depicting rape in which case this style is highly offensive. Two, it is portraying Klingon sex in which case the series is guilty of exoticizing the Klingons which admittedly has been a consistent problem. Either way, the scene just leaves a bad taste in one’s mouth.

    • david

      The bit that didn’t work for me was when they detected the Klingon ship heading towards them. So either it approached the planet uncloaked or they can already detect claimed ships.

      • William Wehrs

        Oh yeah, there are plenty of problems I could have gone into. Like how they seem to think defeating Kol means winning the war, but then when they defeat Kol they seem too accept that the war is going to continue. Or that absolutely horrendous slow motion scene that even Peter Jackson would blush at. These writers really seem to think they don’t have to worry about telling smart stories, and that they can distract us with glossy battle scenes. Discovery is really like Star Trek Beyond the tv show.

        That being said, Lorca continues to be an engaging character and I do give kudos to the writers for that character. You are never really sure if he is just being manipulating, if he believes what he is saying, or a mixture of both. Combine that with the always terrific Jason Issacs and you have the clear breakout character. As Voyager proved with Seven of Nine and the doctor, however, just because you have one or two compelling characters does not mean your shows is compelling.

        • david

          I could get how they considered they were winning the war if you took at is them believing discovering how to break the cloaking devices would give them a war winning edge.

          I agree entirely with the characters. The only one I have any interest in is Lorca. But even these I can’t help but think that is because it is Jason Isaacs as opposed to anything they have done with the character.

          • William Wehrs

            For your first point, I somewhat understand that, but I really don’t understand how the Federation doesn’t have the winning edge already. Use the magic mushroom drive to drop bombs on all the key Klingon shipyards until the Klingons have no ships. If they still fight, then attack the Klingon homeworld itself. This is the problem when you give one side magic powers, it becomes increasingly silly when they still lose.

            As for your second point yeah it’s hard to tell how much of the ambiguity is intentional and how much of it is just Jason Issacs. It’s similar to Dukat in the early seasons of DS9 when Marc Alaimo was making what could have been a one note baddie into a three dimensional character.

          • david

            I could see politics in the federation resulting in them pulling their punches.

            If you take the American civil war as an example. It would have been entirely possible for the union to fully mobilise and defeat the confederacy much quicker than they did. But the political will for that sort of all out war was not there until the ear dragged on.

            Or another example with the Falkland islands war. An artificial boundary was was set to determine to where fighting would take place. The British could have bombed Argentina but did not as it was outside the political scope of the war. They did however fly a Vulcan bomber over Argentina just to show they could do it when they wanted to.

            So I could see the federation putting artificial limits on what are legitimate targets. However this has never been spelt out and certainly the implications have been towards an all or nothing war that isn’t going well. And very quickly these limits would be removed.

            For the characters Doug Jones is doing well with what he has been given. Just that it isn’t very much.

            I did like how stamets and the doctor were used in this episode. They have potential as characters. The problem is 9 episodes in and I’m only beginning to have an interest in any of the characters. It is too little too late.

          • William Wehrs

            Agree pretty much with everything you just said. There could be an explanation for the Federation’s seeming unwillingness to use the magic mushrooms, but it is never given in the show, so instead all we’re left is thinking these people are morons. I can’t see Sisko or Picard passing up this opportunity.
            I agree with Doug Jones. It’s highly unfortunate his character has been reduced to a plot device. At the very least, they could have kept his plot device character consistent, but even that hasn’t been the case, as in the episode with Harry Mudd, his threat ganglia never once goes off. How convenient.
            Stamets is somewhat improving, but maybe it’s the actor, I just feel as if he is going to start crying in every scene. The doctor is essentially the thankless sympathetic love interest that writers used to give to women all the time, though some still do like Baby Driver. Just the fact that I have no idea what the Doctor’s name is shows how badly this series has handled the character.

          • david

            I can agree on the doctor there. I feel though the scenes between him and stamets showed some actual emotion. Angina probably more due to the actors than the writing.

            I never really got into enterprise. But even then I think I feel more for the characters in that than this series so far.

          • William Wehrs

            Sure there was some emotion. My point was simply that the doctor is purely written in how he relates to Stamets, rather than a character in his own right. Contrast that with the heterosexual relationship between Tyler and Burnham. Both have their own perspectives, and both are somewhat fleshed out. I just find it dispiriting that the first recurring homosexual relationship in Trek is written in such a retrograde fashion.
            I don’t know. Enterprise’s characters were pretty bad across the board at least by this point in both series’ respective runs. I think I just expect more out of Discovery because it is streamed on a major network and therefore there should be a much greater sense of continuity and structure than is present. Enterprise, on the other hand, was an episodic show on a dying network that was constantly interfering with its development. For example, Enterprise’s first season was supposed to be all set on Earth and be about how the Enterprise was built. The network refused and insisted that the ship be in space by the end of the pilot. Now, maybe years from now we’ll find out about all the production nightmare of Discovery, certainly there appears to be one what with Bryan Fuller’s abrupt resignation as show runner, but as of now it seems as Discovery had more freedom than Enterprise.

          • david

            The doctor is definitely not fully fleshed out. I just felt the actor did well with the little he had.

            Something that just occured to me. This is the first time in star trek that one of the main characters is not a doctor. The doctors have always been a major character and often a moral center for the other characters. Pointing out the morality of an issue when more military or mission minded characters wanted to do something a bit iffy.

  • Kenneth Morgan

    Has anyone else noticed that the idea of Stamets,when connected to the spore drive, being able to see pretty much the whole universe, seems to have been borrowed from Frederik Pohl’s story “The Mapmakers”? Old-time-radio fans may remember how it was adapted for the classic series “X Minus One”. Just asking.

  • mamba

    This was a pretty good episode for me! Though the moment they started the “one jump more” part and the happy ending theme, I was just waiting for it to explode in their faces.

    So now Discovery is like Sliders…this is not a bad thing. Every Star Trek has explored our universe and only touched upon parallel universes…now you have a VOYAGER scenario where they can have infinite possibilities any show! Odds are Staments doesn’t know how to get home…not knowing how he got there in the first place after all, and with him seeing “infinite possibilities”, how WOULD he recognize home? What if one looks similar, but they discover that say Saru’s people are the predators there. Close enough? At least it answers the question “why are we now hearing about this drive?” Too unstable, needs a DNA transfer that’s dangerous, and the original drive is lost in the multiverse somewhere.

    As for ignoring the reflection thing, I think it’s safe to say they are embracing it. We just didn’t understand the first time, but we were seeing that Staments has already tapped into the multiverse.

    Why 133 jumps? They explain that they can use triangulation to discover the frequency faster, as they are mapping out a distortion patters in order to GET the frequency. The computer simply needed 133 data points in a specific configuration to begin. They had to be fast because the Klingons could do anything, so time is of the essence.

    The Klingons speaking english from that point? I think that was for our convenience. Burnham set down the communicator, so presumably it was broadcasting everything in the language it needed, and this saved the audience the headache of hearing everything overdubbed by a robot in real-time,

    Wow…klingon nipples. I honestly never thought I’d see that, not really wanted to. Come on writers, you’re less thrashy than that. As for the tone of the scene (William Weirs, below), remember that while yes he definitely was being raped, he himself admitted that to survive “he encouraged it”. So not really a knife-to-the-throat rape but rather a ” I will make her believe it’s genuine, give her what she wants, like it or I suffer and die” rape. True, still as valid a rape, make no mistake about that…but that’s why he seems…cooperative. Besides she never broke any bones that we saw, and isn’t that a staple of good Klingon sex? She was using him. It IS sleezy. That’s the point…

    As for him being a manchurian canditate, frankly I was already expecting that by now…surprised they are holding out on that. It just seemed so apparent so far…

    Looking forward to seeing where they go from here.

  • Kudos to the writers to giving in to make an obvious Rent reference with La Boheme since it’s Anthony Rapp.

  • ppi23

    “Wow, love can conquer PTSD!” — That’s one way to look at it. Another would be that he has been sexually abused, molested, and is vulnerable, having been taken advantage of, and Michael senses that vulnerability and shame, and decides to take advantage of it for her own depraved aims, like a predator. Basically just passing Lt. Boytow around from one woman to another. Hollywood!!

  • ppi23

    So the end visual sequence is predicated on the Klingon ship dropping shields, engaging their cloak, and REMAINING ABSOLUTELY STILL in the same spot where Discovery has just been shown shooting at them. “Captain, they are shooting at us!” “Drop, shields, cloak and stay absolutely still because Alex Kurtzman can’t come up with some reason to explain this stupid visual sequence he wants to show” —So the war starts with unbelievably stupid actions, and it ends with unbelievably stupid actions

    • ppi23

      It’s like poetry. It rhymes!!

  • ussafs3

    I think my biggest heartburn with “Discovery” is that it supposedly takes place before ST:TOS yet technologically looks hundreds of years more advanced. “Enterprise” did this too, even though they had the episode where the Defiant from the “future” ends up in the parallel beard universe.

    • ppi23

      (except for Holograms interacting with the environment they are projected on, also instantaneously, and new Vulcan super-powers, I don’t care) That said: And there’s no reason for it! STD would fit naturally after DS9/voyager where Klingon and Federation had been sitting all comfy-womfy with each other and integrating societies to force a conservative Klingon backlash. But no, they decided to place the isolationist backlash after the line: “But the Federation hasn’t even seen a Klingon in a hundred-years!” <–as was noted by Dr. O'boogie in his review