VIDEO: Dredd (2012)

It’s judgment time as Joey reviews a comic book movie (because we haven’t had enough of those in recent years)!

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  • $36060516

    The use of a gun in the manner shown in your video at 6:14 is a good way to go deaf.

    I guess my favorite 5 movies based on comics would be (in no particular order): “Oldboy,” “Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro,” “American Splendor,” the 1978 “Superman,” and “Riki-Oh: The Story of Ricky” (because it is so over the top). The next one I want to see is “Blue is the Warmest Color.” I don’t care for most of the Marvel and DC movies everybody else loves.

  • Muthsarah

    It DID look great in 3D. One of the better uses of it. Simple, but effective.

    “On the grand scheme of things, I’m going to have to settle with giving this movie a complacent, middle-of-the-road ‘Eh'”

    Which brings me to MY question for the day, which I’ll pitch to the room. If YOU were to throw Joey out of a kilometer-high window for giving Dredd such a dismissive rating, what would YOUR quippy action movie remark be? :p

    Seriously, give the movie another look sometime. Might catch it on a better day. Watching it with your family seems weird enough, but with RL stuff hanging over your head at the same time…yeesh. Almost doesn’t seem fair to the film.

    • Joseph Patrick

      Yes, I did watch the movie “another look”… three different times. Two before reviewing it. My opinion hasn’t changed, and probably won’t change. I try not to force opinions on other people, just offering my perspective, context, and circumstance.

      Jeez… this is what I get for giving a movie “an okay” rating.

      • Muthsarah

        Aw, I didn’t mean to come off as THAT critical, Joey. Just that since Dredd was ignored by the public, it further suggests we’ll likely never see the likes of classic 80s action movie Hollywood again. It still needs all the positive exposure it can get. For the genre as a whole. If you didn’t care for it, that sucks (but not throw-Joey-off-a-building bad), as it’s a movie that a lot of people could like and should see.

        • Joseph Patrick

          It’s originally why I made the “eh” rating to sum up movies I can’t give the “fughetabouit” to. There’s value there, just not enough for me personally to praise more. Maybe in the future I can elaborate more on both the pros and the cons when writing these reviews.

          But in all honesty, I’d like to play with the concept of a small short where Judge Dredd throws me out of a window. Probably make it an homage to “Watchmen” at the same time!

      • $36060516

        Hey, I wouldn’t mind being kicked out of a high rise window as long as I was hugging Lena Headey at the time and we were both kicked out together. Could be fun.

        • Joseph Patrick

          With our luck, she’d probably be hugging her brother Jaime on her way down (A missed GoT joke opportunity right there!).

          • $36060516

            What is it with Lena and people getting tossed out windows?

    • Joseph Patrick

      And how about “Man, he isn’t going to be in Rush Hour 3.”

      It’s taken already… but it’s a great outtake!

    • danbreunig

      I’ll give it a shot, if just for the action-cheese factor.

      Joey turns on the TV, watches a bit of Dredd, gives it an “Eh”, Dredd comes in and drops hims from the top of the building, to which he quotes Tim Leary’s:

      “Turn on, tune in, drop out.”

      Otherwise Judge Dredd isn’t on my radar at all, whether comics or movies. The most exposure I’ve ever had was Anthrax’s “I Am The Law”.

      • Joseph Patrick

        Dammit! I should have used that song in the end credits!

        Though to be fair, I was originally going to put in “Blood” by My Chemical Romance; but I think I’ve taken enough jabs at New Jersey in this video!

  • “Avengers”. It has the most superheroes superhero-ing all over the screen.

    Also, I love “Dredd” I consider it one of the best movies of the last 10 years. It is well structured, explains everything that happens in it, has a character arc for Anderson, and has a logical and consistent upping of the stakes.

  • I’ve heard quite a few criticisms of the movie (which I myself really liked) but I think you’re the first to say the action didn’t work. My interpretation of Dredd’s plan at the end was that his code didn’t allow him to not kill her, so he ended up coming up with some rather creative means to do so (which happen to be one of my favourite villain deaths ever). As far as comic adaptations go, my favourites would probably be The Dark Knight Rises, which I regard as an admittedly flawed masterpiece (with the worst death scene in cinema history), and Oldboy, which I hold with a reverence usually bestowed for religious figures and Cormac McCarthy novels.

  • spiff2268

    What I really liked about this movie is that Dredd never took his helmet off. That shows all kinds of respect to the source material in mt book. In that other version the second Stalone took his helmet off I was done.

    • Toby Clark

      Would you have been more receptive to it if they’d kept the helmet on until the scene where he gets sentenced and stripped of his title?

      • Thomas Stockel

        Personally, no. Dredd getting framed and sent out to the Cursed Earth felt lame to me. In fact, the entire plot felt lame to me, from giving Dredd a lame origin (And I know he has some sort of origin in the original comic, but I don’t need one) and evil twin to an even more lame sidekick. Stallone’s movie doesn’t work on any level for me.

  • Lee Presson

    I like the Yeah. It’s like he’s saying “you’re expecting a cool one liner here, aren’t you? Well you’re not getting one. Yeah. Chew on that.”

  • Nessus

    i’m not that familiar with the comic either, but from what I’ve been told/have read, Dredd himself is supposed to be the straight man to the world around him. Not the sane man, but rather the one guy who’s crazy lies in being totally OTT humourless and serious in contrast to the OTT rainbow of WTFery that is the rest of his world. Supposedly this crunchy contrast is the core of the comics’ signature humor.

    In that light, I’d say the problem may not be that Dredd doesn’t get more quips, but rather that the rest of the world/cast isn’t quite twisted enough to make the contrast between them pop. It’s a very grim setting, but it’s grim in a sort of straightforward way. There’s bits of black humor sprinkled about, but by and large the grimness is of the sort you’d expect from a modern cop show (set in third world country. Ma-Ma and her gang are not that far off from, say, Pablo Escobar). In this film’s world, Dredd blends in. He’s not special, just a veteran cop who’s good at his job.

    You mentioned RoboCop being inspired by Dredd, and I think RoboCop has exactly the sort of contrast that’s been described to me by readers of the 2000AD comics, but which I don’t really see in Dredd 2012.

    …Which now that I think of it, the Stallone Dredd movie may have tried (but failed) to do. The Stallone movie made two big mistakes that killed that aspect of it. It tried to humanize Dredd, and it went for a simpler, more direct (I want to say things like “cartoony” or “American”, but those aren’t entirely correct) style of humor. The result was as lacking in contrast as the 2012 movie, just in sort of a different direction. It almost makes me wonder what you’d get if you transplanted the 2012 version of the character into the 1995 film… but I don’t think that would do it. The 1995 movie has more problems, even just looking at the comedy, than merely the contrast thing.

  • Gallen_Dugall

    It is always nice when a project like this gets the seal of approval from both hard core fans and the creator but it also highlights the problems of making a movie for fans of a
    franchise and then trying so sell that to a wider audience. I liked Dredd even though I never had a problem with the Stallone version, not even the comic relief, but then my knowledge of Dredd was pretty much non-existent going into that. In this one I loved that the place was called Peachtrees since everything around Georgia is called “Peachtree” which renders the roads near unnavigable and there are no actual peach trees, South Carolina grows those. The use of the slow-motion fx to portray the effects of the drug
    instead of the industry standard of padding out action scenes – this worked for me. As for the bit with
    the bomb I thought that it was stated that the stopping of her heart
    would cause the thing to “transmit” a signal – although it’s been a while since I’ve seen
    this – so whatever. I was also impressed by the commentary on the unintended synergy between law-enforcement and crime – locally and recently there was a kid shot by police because when the kid answered their knock on the door “they thought the Wii-remote in his hand was a gun” and in response the “justice system” circles the wagons. This is the result of the public acting out of fear to grant unlimited power to an institution that has zero external oversight – sounds about right for the world of Dredd.

  • Thomas Stockel

    I have to go with Captain America, The First Avenger. I loved every single thing about this movie, from the way they incorporated Cap’s various costumes and shields to Chris Evan’s take on the character. Mark Millar did a horrible job trying to interpret Cap in the Ultimate comics, making him into a literal super soldier. In this case Chris Evans gives us a decent guy from Brooklyn who doesn’t like bullies, who understands how power can be abused.

    I just think everything works, from the performances to the setting to the script. Tommy Lee Jones is especially a treat, and Dominic Cooper is awesome as Howard Stark and Hayley Atwell was great as well. And Hugo Weaving? Honestly, it’s hard for me to tell which Avengers villain is greater, The Red Skull or Loki. Weaving and Hiddleston have done such great jobs adapting the villains to the big screen it’s so hard to choose!

    • Gallen_Dugall

      It’s a very entertaining film although it does suffer some presentation awkwardness from the whole Marvel revisioning of WWII so that it was the Allies against Hydra… and too many montages… and too many big effects scenes… and not enough development of the secondary characters.

      • Thomas Stockel

        Well no, it’s not the Allies against Hydra: its’ the SSF against Hydra. It is never, ever said anywhere that Hydra took over Germany or anything like that. It isn’t even implied. Schmidt simply kills a few German and SS officers and says Hydra could not longer grow beneath Hitler’s shadow.
        And I won’t deny the film sometimes seemed rush. In a perfect world we would have gotten a two part epic the way X-Men, First Class should have been filmed. But I forgive the movie’s flaws because unlike Thor or Iron Man, which could take their time, This movie had to show us a big chunk of WWII as well as get Rogers into the present day. Considering all the literary demands made of director Joe Johnston I think he delivered a heckuva entertaining film.

        • Gallen_Dugall

          Sorry, I expressed myself poorly. In the source material these days Marvel has WWII fought against Hydra which was operating out of Germany – Hitler and Nazi’s were just a front for them to gain political power that was quickly dropped, and they kind of do the same thing in the film… where it actually works better. I just thought that having to add that weirdness to the movie made it more awkward than it needed to be. I’ve certainly heard/read enough complaints about the film that stem from the confusion generated from that.
          Now if we rethink the movie, you can keep Hydra but make the Nazis still the prime force driving the war from beginning to end, then you don’t have to have the “awkwardness” of an internal rebellion in Germany by their science branch. Or the two separate wars going on at once. Hydra just becomes part of the Reich that survives the war to go on as a threat in later films. I think that would be more streamlined and general audience comprehensible.
          Anyway, it’s a very enjoyable movie – one I was pleased to receive on DVD as a gift.

  • Alexa

    I really enjoyed this movie because of its violence. It didn’t hold back but in my opinion it didn’t go that overboard as some gory movies can. It was just really sleazy but in an entertaining way. Also how can you give it just an eh when you said everything else was awesome, that’s kind of confusing. Plus its not like the movie was so super duper serious, like the dragging Nolan Batman films, it could get pretty over the top as any action movie from the 80s would get. I mean any Veerhoven film is just as if not more so gory than this film. Plus I never noticed the line at the end because I wasn’t expecting a cheesy action line, since I think the cheesy action line already came in the form of “I am the law”. Regardless of that being his signature line, its still pretty cheesy, and I love it for it.

    As for fav comic book movie, well that’s hard…Well this one is pretty good, but I think I really loved The Rocketeer. That is a nostalgic movie that holds up really well. I also love anything by DC animation especially Batman and Superman: Public Enemies. The only ones I severely disliked were Flashpoint and Justice League: War. Also yeah any of the Marvel films, just because they’re fun without talking down to me, and they’re serious without being too up their butt.

    • Guest

      “Also how can you give it just an eh when you said everything else was awesome, that’s kind of confusing.”

      Because the action seemed to go overboard for me, tipping the balance between lighthearted and dark. That’s why it’s more of a personal problem that some people may or may not empathize with.

      • Alexa

        Hmm I may have to re-watch it, because I didn’t get a sense of that at all. It all seemed pretty balanced to me *shrugs*

    • Joseph Patrick

      EDIT- I meant “gore” as opposed to “action.” I tried to edit that comment, but disque was acting weird… :P

  • Sand Ripper

    The best Dredd movie is still the original RoboCop.

  • Michael Martin

    Come on, man. The “Yeah” was the best one liner in the history of action movies. Your point is that Dredd might have been wrong about the way the hear-bomb device worked, And it was a crazy risk to try what he did, which is his entire reason for existing — judging and executing sentences. But he’s Dredd, so he was right. He’s always right. That’s why he’s Dredd. So… yeah. He was just pointing it out to you.