VIDEO: Godzilla (2014)

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The King of the Monsters is back, this time under the wing of Gareth Edwards, known for his other critically acclaimed movie about giant monsters. Is this finally a worthy adaptation of Gojira? Or is it worse than Roland Emmerich’s disaster?

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  • MichaelANovelli

    Mothra! Because Mothra is both ass-kicking and fabulous!

  • David White

    Dude, I got over Godzilla a long time ago!! Re-making this is redundant (and silly)!!!

  • Jordan

    Mothra. If you watch Rebirth of Mothra 3, Armor Mothra walks through the strongest incarnation of King Ghidorah aside from Kaiser Ghidorah

  • LexusAmaru

    Jerry-
    TGWTG.com is hiring again!Are you going to apply? 🙂

    • Jerry Nava

      Hi! Yeah, I was informed of this when Doug posted it on a video, I’ve sent my submission, so here’s hoping I’m good enough for them, haha!

      • Muthsarah

        What did you send them? Do you have a vid you’ve made that you think is your best?

        • Jerry Nava

          I made an audition video specifically for this. Using various clips from my show as well.

      • LexusAmaru

        YOU ARE!Keep the faith!! 😀

  • Gallen_Dugall

    I enjoyed it but it worked better on it’s own terms than as a “classic” Godzilla movie – although I haven’t seen the recent ones so I don’t know how true that is anymore of the franchise. If you’re going for the monsters alone – you’re going to be disappointed. If you’re open to the human story the film as a whole should work for you. If they added a half hour of monster fights I think the movie would have been a better monster movie but it would have interrupted the pacing for the human side of the story. The trigger event for the sequels was done in a way that doesn’t seem too contrived because they took the time to set it up in the final third of the film rather than tacking it on at the very end and I appreciated that. I agree with those that said Godzilla looks obese – he has a whole lot of “extra” padding on him and it ain’t muscle, it just kind of hangs there loosely and makes him look really out of shape, which is not helped by (SPOILER) the way the early fights are handled to make it look like he just came out of hibernation and isn’t fully awake, or his passing out each time after using his breath weapon like a fat man who just ran up a dozen flights of stairs to the roof.

    • Muthsarah

      REPLYING TO SPOILERS, SO STILL SPOILERISH

      1. Why do you think there was so little Godzilla in “Godzilla”?
      2. Why would Godzilla appear overweight in a new Godzilla pic?
      3. Why do you think the breath weapon exhausted him?

      These seem like….unnecessary….”concessions”??…to reality. Or something. Like they’re attempting to make Godzilla seem more fragile, sympathetic, or just plain less-indestructable, as if Godzilla’s part of the movie is about him re-discovering himself, when the movie really should be trying to sell the lizard to a whole new audience as the legendary badass even a child has at least heard he was supposed to be. Is that something that modern audiences would want to see, or need to see in order to accept him? A tired giant lizard? A giant lizard that has to pace himself? A giant lizard who’s not quite at college weight anymore, who can’t go about his business as easily as he used to? That’s Rocky 6, not Godzilla. Do they trust the name, the image, the sound, the legacy of the character so little that they have to spend so much time making him seem less threatening, that they don’t trust him to sell his own movie as a classic force of pure destruction?

      If these same people made King Kong again, I’d expect them to spend the first 2/3 of the film dealing with Kong’s previous breakup and subsequent questioning of himself as a giant ape. Being afraid of being smitten with Fay Wray or whoever, worried about becoming too attached to her for the wrong reasons, moving on too quickly. All the while dealing with mange.

      It’s a goddamn giant monkey! Have it smash things!

      EDIT: OK, it’s good to have some depth to the characters, IF it doesn’t detract from what should be the movie’s main draw (spectacle, destruction, terror). And, of course, having the monsters represent something, or give the characters some special motivation above and beyond just not getting stepped on is also good, but not when it takes up a large part of the film and leaves the action to the final act. For all the gripes I had about Pacific Rim, it did at least put the kaiju/jaeger scenes front-and-center, while spacing them out and still giving them the whole final act. The other parts were still very uninteresting, but at least they didn’t make up quite 80% of that movie.

      The Transformers movies spend more time on the humans than on the Transformers. King Kong was over three hours long. Godzilla’s not even in the first hour of this film, and there’s only one really big fight scene. If these action scenes are too time-consuming to produce, at least make the stuff around them a lot shorter. Couldn’t this movie have worked at 90-100 minutes if they couldn’t get more than 30 minutes of action?

      • Gallen_Dugall

        I suspect that they were rationalizing the slow pacing of the monster fights by having him be out of shape due to hibernation or whatever.

      • Ken Zevo

        1. Because there was so little monsters in “Monsters”? I blame it squarely on the choice of director.
        2. Because Godzilla appeared so anorexic, in the last remake? (Just a guess.) Also, the base of the word “Gojira” is pasting together parts of the Japanese words for “gorilla” and “whale”. It might have something to do with that.
        3. That breath weapon has become a real thorn in the Godzilla franchise, in the last decade or so. It’s like trying to explain why Superman can fly (or how his X-ray vision works), or where all that webbing that Spiderman uses actually comes from. I did not even realize G’s breathe weapon had killed/exhausted him, until you mentioned it just now. I thought it was just the usual old dramatic license at the end of a Boss fight, for the sake of heightening the tension, similar to what happened to Tony Stark / Iron Man at the end of “Avengers”. It’s like asking why Michael Myers and Freddie Kruger never really die, they just keep coming back. If you have to ask, you’ll never know. Some things in life are not a question that must be answered, but rather a mystery that must either be embraced or rejected in it’s entirety.

        • $36060516

          Is it that hard to type the rest of the letters in “Japanese?” Given the history of that term as an ethnic slur, it would seem worth the effort to avoid misunderstandings of your intentions.

          I agree with you about “Monsters.” It was pointless.

          • Ken Zevo

            I was unaware there were any Thought Police in the audience … not you personally, but someone else who might be offended … by a word. One word. However, in the interest of community cohesion (and since it takes lass than 30 seconds to do … and I am not THAT lazy, lol), I have changed the word “Jap” – which was merely abbreviated for reasons of speed, time, and efficiency, not any prejudice; I have 4 Japanese cherry trees growing in my backyard, I swear! – to its non-abbreviated form of “Japanese”. I also abbreviated Godzilla as “G”, for the same reason: I was sleepy. Hopefully, Godzuki fans will forgive me.

            Silly me. I guess I am so old, I can still recall when all the people promoting racial hatred actually said something hateful. This was just one word, in an entire commentary … and all I did was edit it for convenience, because I was going to bed soon.

            I am not angry with you … this isn’t about you, personally … I am just sad about the direction where America and the Western world seems to be headed, these days … and bitterly disappointed that the society I grew up in, in the last 1/2 of the 20th century, has become this race-conscious “1984”-esque dystopia in the 21st. I had hoped for better in my old age, but I guess not. Deep depression, heavy sigh.

            P.S. I didn’t think “Monsters” was so much pointless, as it was mislabeled. It’s like opening a can labeled “corn” and finding it actually had pineapple rings inside. If the film had been titled, “Border Run”, or “Getting Back Home”, or “The Misunderstood Gentle Giants from Outer Space”, or anything but “Monsters” … when the movie has the word “Monsters” as a title, you expect the monsters to have some non-trivial amount of screen time … and to act, well, monstrously?

            In fact, I think it would have been a LOT easier to accept that movie on its own terms, if the obstacle to overcome had been a plague, or a revolution, or something “normal” that didn’t pull focus away from the drama and tension between the male and female lead actors. Not a great movie, but not that bad either, when considered in its own right. I grew to like “Monsters”, after I stopped trying to force it to be something it was not, and which (from what I have read) the director never intended it to be. It would have been nice for the director to have given the audience some clue that was he was going to mislead us about the nature of the monsters; before the tickets were already paid for, our time in the theatre already committed, and our hopes of senseless WWF-esque kaiju violence and mayhem unfairly built up.

            I think “Monsters” had potential, if the monster hook hadn’t set it up for things it was never intended (by the director) to deliver … kind of like that Blair Witch movie, if it had been named “Bewitched” instead.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjw6y4ClQwg

          • $36060516

            I am not a thought policeman. I have no power to enforce the advice I offered, and don’t even know if my advice was correct. I just know I would never use that word, especially around my Japanese American friends, unless there was some highly urgent need to use it to make some historical point, because I wouldn’t want to make others around me uncomfortable. I thought you might not be thinking about how a Japanese person reading that might take it. Not that I can claim to know how each individual Japanese or Japanese American person would take it for certain — I’m sure some would laugh it off or not care — and not that I intended to accuse you of negative feelings towards the Japanese. Anyway, peace.

          • Ken Zevo

            Ok, I thought I made it clear in my reply that I was p.o.’d, but not at you personally … altho using a phrase like “Thought Police” is pretty aggressive, and arguably over-the-top. My sincere apology, for being passive-aggressive. I am having a bad week … but that is a reason, not an excuse. I still behaved poorly, and I am sorry for my momentary slips of judgment.

            I get what you are saying, about living around an ethnic group that has historical issues with past mistreatment by the majority ethnic group(s). I grew up in the Deep South, so I am sympathetic.

            On the other hand, if Jap(anese) people in this county (America) and this day & age have a problem with the word “Jap”, I think they may be suffering from thin skin, victimhood complex, PTSD (if they are WW2 vintage internment survivors), or other problems that have more to do with their own life choices, or some other peoples’ life choices, than mine.

            If I have to tolerate non-white ethnic groups saying things like “cracker”, “gringo”, “gaijin”, “kaffir”, etc., in public and the main stream media, and I have to endure these words with a thick skin and quiet nobility, then the rest of America should be equally tolerant of me too, IMAO, when the shoe is on the other foot. Either the rules should apply equally to us all, or none of us. There shouldn’t be any “protected” classes of ethnic minorities. Human rights are for everyone, and should be applied equally towards all, or those rights begin to lose their potency and meaning, and just become another PC double-standard.

            Again, let me emphasize that I am not venting on you personally, or your reply, just venting generally … and, hopefully, pointing out the broader picture in this miniature morality play we seem to be involved in. I get the impression you acted from the best of motives, and I don’t want to seem ungrateful for your effort, care, or compassion. You sound like you would make a very good neighbor.

          • $36060516

            I understood you weren’t intending to insult me, and no apologies necessary though I appreciate the kindness. I thought you might have been a little angry at the very beginning of your post where the thought police comment was deployed, but if so that was very understandable to me as I have a similar reaction of a sudden flush of anger when someone scolds me for my behavior and I don’t think it’s justified and feel like someone is trying to shame and belittle me.

            Random thoughts on the above:

            I’m willing to bet people still do get called slurs like “Jap” when growing up in school, when kids will look for any difference to pick on hoping to draw blood and make someone cry. These insults may be archaic, but they get passed on through osmosis, seemingly, judging by the fact that I am a fat man and when I walked into a store a few months ago two preadolescent boys started laughing at me and quoting Fat Albert’s “hey hey hey.” That cartoon aired before they were born, yet they learned this method early on as a way to torment others. So, based on that it seems like a bad idea to use such terms unless desiring to bring back painful memories of being bullied.

            “If I have to tolerate non-white ethnic groups saying things like ‘cracker,’ ‘gringo,’ ‘gaijin,’ ‘kaffir,’ etc., in public and the main stream media, and I have to endure these words with a thick skin and quiet nobility, then the rest of America should be equally tolerant of me too,”

            I guess to this I would reply that I don’t think you do have to endure these words with quiet nobility. If I wandered into a discussion board like this one and someone was using the terms “cracker” or “honky” I would feel angry toward that person and would probably say something nasty back. If that’s not the reaction you want (people being angry at you — maybe not even replying, but carrying with them a feeling that you are someone they don’t like), then probably not a good idea to play with that language!

            In Japan, the minority white population there have vocally protested commercials which belittle Caucasians using antique stereotypes. I’ve seen two examples of such commercials which have been protested. I’ll link to one of them here (apparently besides the ridiculous appearance, the fake Caucasian is mispronouncing Japanese in a dumb way).

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBXzHx-jAIo

            I have a feeling (which of course could be wrong), that given your strong opinions on this matter, you may have used this word a little bit mischievously, knowing you were being mildly transgressive in doing so and (perhaps subconsciously) hoping someone might confront you about it so you could vent a little on this injustice you feel strongly about. None of that is a crime, and it’s something I recognize in myself.

            Anyway, just my own philosophical ruminations on the subject. I understand where you’re coming from. I remember in college feeling quite angry about the newly minted term “people of color,” because it seemed to me absurd to unite everyone except white people in a single group, when even among Asian peoples who look very similar to white folks, there are deep ethnic hatreds.

          • Ken Zevo

            Actually, the beginning, middle, and end of it went like this: type, type, type … J-A-P … well, why the hell write the whole thing, people will know I mean “Japanese” if I stop there … type, type, type … G … well, why bother typing the rest again, people will already know I am talking about Godzilla … it’s late, and I can’t wait to get into bed and fall asleep … type, type, type … and “post”! End of story.

            There really wasn’t any higher, nor lower, motives at work. I just wanted to hit the rack, so I made a few short cuts, lol. We don’t have too many Asians in central MN, so I never gave it any further thought, I was too busy heading to bed. I think we’ve given this enough free rent in our heads. Until next time … domo arigato gozaimasu.

  • danbreunig

    A real human element, balanced squarely with the action? That’s something I can get behind, as well as to give Mister Bay some pointers. Otherwise I haven’t seen enough kaiju to justify picking out any one.
    Just want to add that using the HB theme fits nicely. Because memories (albeit faint). It makes the 1998 version feel like the Godzuki by comparison.

    • Jerry Nava

      Gosh I adore the HB Cartoon, yes it’s silly and Godzuki is annoying, but it was my first exposure to Godzilla, and he breathed fire and crushed stuff and everything, good memories man.

      • A POS is still a POS, and this Godzilla cartoon was just that. If H-B couldn’t really show what Godzilla was on TV, why bother to adapt it?

        • Jerry Nava

          I genuinely don’t know if you meant Point of Selling or piece of shit…but yeah, why bother adapting it? Because now the money from the ensuing cartoon would be theirs, that’s the mindset of every adaptation ever: “I want some of that delicious franchise money!”

          • I meant Piece Of Shit, straight up, because that’s what this cartoon was, and a lot of people agree with me.

          • Ken Zevo

            It was dreadful … and, sad to say, I watched anyway, back in the day. You’d have to strap me down, “Clockwork Orange”-style, to get me to watch it today though – sheer rubbish.

          • This version of Godzilla is better:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b2CtgkwJQA

          • Ken Zevo

            Ok, granted, it IS better, no arguments there.

            This will always be the ultimate Godzilla film, for me, though – even down to the poor effects, shoddy production values, directorial ego-mania, and one-sided violence.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s3UogfAGg0

          • Have always loved this one; too bad it couldn’t be shown with the current film as a short.

          • TheSotSays

            Well we’re finally getting a handle on your activities “Neville.” You seem to have one of your little fairies installed at each media outlet.

            This is a lot more fun than I thought you llittle two bit fudge packer.

          • Jerry Nava

            Ok now that I do agree with. I love everything the guys in charge of that cartoon have made, remember Extreme Ghostbusters and the Men in Black cartoon?

          • Yes, I remember both cartoons, and will love Extreme Ghostbusters for having a female and a handicapped male always. I also love the Jackie Chan Adventures show as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKZxJcjnGEE

          • Jerry Nava

            Sure, it probably was, and if I watch it again today who knows maybe I’ll find it cring worthy, but that doesn’t take away the fact that watching it still brings good memories back.

          • danbreunig

            If it helped to make your childhood a happier place, that’s what makes it count.

        • Ken Zevo

          Money? (And because most kids are idiots?) That’s my best guess, based on having lived thru those same years. Saturday morning cartoons often borrowed/exploited known faces from other genres (Tarzan, Batman, Evil Kinevil, Star Trek, Lassie, etc.), usually on-the-cheap and poorly by adult standards, but good-enough-for-a-gov’t contract for most kids, esp. if there were lots of fire and explosions (and monsters.)

  • Wizkamridr

    I’ve watched most of the godzilla films from japan, and I think none of them are perfect. I still enjoy watching them though. There is usually there is a messege they are trying to get across. You just have to look past the rubber suits and minature sets.

  • Thomas Stockel

    I found the film to be mediocre, a 5/10. When I see a Godzilla movie I expect to see, you know, Godzilla. Del Toro seemed to get that when he filmed Pacific Rim; people go to see giant monster movies to see giant monsters punching one another.

    And another thing; this movie rips off a far superior film: Gamera, Guardian of The Universe, which pretty much has the same plot. Hell, the kaiju in this Godzilla movie have wedge shaped heads not unlike Gauss, Gamera’s arch foe. And one flies, just like Gauss.

    Is it as bad as Emmerich’s film? Hell no. It’s just not as good as it could have been.

    • Jerry Nava

      I appreciate your opinion Thomas but I strongly disagree, take a look at other monster movies (not toho’s brawl movies, mind you), they all have a build up until the main monster shows up, hell, even in some of the Toho Brawl’s Godzilla is the last kaiju to show up, because he’s like the main course, you have to eat it last.

      And come on, did you see the action in the movie? That was freaking amazing.
      You are right in one thing, this is no Kaiju movie, it’s a hollywood giant monster movie. Gareth Edwards himself seems to love Kaijus themselves but the genre, not so much so the result is a bit mixed I guess.

      I haven’t seen that Gamera movie so I’m not sure how much of a rip off thi is though…

      • Thomas Stockel

        I hear where you’re coming from, Jerry. I guess I just didn’t care as much about the family drama and I though there were some coincidences that were hard to swallow (i.e. the protagonist’s occupation being so critical to the plot. Don’t want to spoil things.)

        I’ll discuss the similarities between the films privately, as again I don’t want to spoil it for people who haven’t seen the film yet.

  • Ken Zevo

    I can adequately describe the new Godzilla movie in one sentence: It’s “Pacific Rim 2”, with no mecha, and Godzilla photoshopped in.

    It is not a great movie, but it IS a really good movie … with Godzilla photoshopped in. But I wouldn’t call it a “Godzilla movie”. It still misses the bull’s-eye … but it is WAY closer than the ‘Zilla remake, and fun to watch. If you’re waiting for the “usual” Godzilla moments from your youth, though, … well, I was disappointed, and you may be too. Plus, the plot moves along in fits and starts, at several points, and there were other moments that interfered with the kind of “willing suspension of disbelief” needed for a typical Godzilla movie.

    Overall, it IS a good solid effort. I’d give it 6/10. I was hoping (and expecting) better, but at least it is not nearly as bad as I feared it might be. It’s like hitting a double in baseball, and then just barely stealing your way onto third base because of an outfield error. That’s not as good as making an normal triple, or a home run; but it’s noticably better than only getting to first base, or an ordinary double. And it is way better than striking out.

    • Jerry Nava

      Yeah this mirrors what I thought, minus the Pacific Rim part, but that’s mostly because Godzilla was aiming for a completely different tone and fell somewhere in between. But yeah, I agree with you, like I said in the video, it’s just good enough. Hopefully the sequel can surprise us, Edwards is not a bad director he just needs to find a better script.

      • Ken Zevo

        He’s not a bad director (see my comments on “Monsters”, below), but he certainly was a bad choice for this franchise, IMAO (In My Arrogant Opinion.) The movie felt like it was 3 different story lines (father, sun, and monster battles) that had been stitched together Frankenstein-style … but with fairly neat and orderly stitches. The transitions were a tad rough, and a bit jarring, but they held together “good enough” and were generally quickly forgotten. I just found them unnecessarily irritating, even if the irritation was brief and did not steal too much focus from the plot development.

        If this had not been a Godzilla movie, those problems would have been ok – or at least forgivable – but he missed or bungled some of the more common Godzilla memes and tropes, so I found myself expecting one thing and getting something else delivered … which was not always bad, but it was a constant (and irritating) reminder that this is NOT your old Toho Godzilla movie, this is the American take on a Japanese classic. If you go in with your “classic Godzilla” glasses on, then there are problems, esp. when you get around those ragged patches of stitching.

        I just came from the new X-men movie – NAILED IT! I give it a solid 9.8/10, and any complaints are so trivial as not to be worth mentioning (here.) That is the director they need for the Godzilla sequel. I hate to say it – cuz I know I’ll get flamed for this – but, even tho I don’t normally go to see his movies, I’d like to see Michael Bey do the sequel (in my inner fantasy world, that is.) This could have used more fast-paced action, explosions, fight scenes – face it, that is what people go to Godzilla movies for, the rest is filler, dramatic build-up, and exposition. This movie could use some Transformers / TMNT / Star Trek: Into Darkness tweaking. In fact, during the HALO (High Altitude Low Opening, not the game) parachute jump, I was reminded of the wing suit jump from Transformers (3?), and the comparison was not particularly favorable towards the Godzilla movie … even though I thought the parachute scene in Godzilla was excellent (when judged strictly on its own merits and context, that is.) Just my opinion.

        I do they hope they change directors for the Godzilla sequel (even tho I expect that they probably won’t), but only if they get a better action-adventure director. Edwards is wrong, for this genre, even if he is clearly up to the job. He should stay with movies that are more like “The Village” or “Blair Witch Project”; where the focus is on mystery, plot misdirection/twists, and interpersonal relationships … again, IMAO. (I reserve the right to be arrogant about my comments, either wholly or partially, at all times, lol.)

  • Arakasi_99

    I saw this last night and I have to include myself in those disappointed by it. The last 20 minutes were mostly great (pretty much from the HALO jump on), but getting to that point was a slog.
    – the pacing just seemed to be off – I would have expected the tension to build up to a peak at the climax, but the cuts between the different characters dispersed the tension rather than build it
    – two major plot points required the characters to be holding the idiot stick for them to work. 1) Why did Ford follow his father? They had already established that Ford thought his father was loopy, so why commit a felony with him? 2) Why did the final confrontation take place where it did? Shouldn’t the humans have been doing everything within their power to move the final battle away from the cities?
    – The movie failed to make us really care about the characters. Instead, it substituted putting a child at risk. This even went to the extent of loaning Ford a child to give him someone to rescue, before letting the kid drop out of the movie.
    – Kentaro Wantanabe is a great actor. They pretty much wasted him in this movie.

    I’ve been trying to avoid spoilers, but can’t continue without mentioning a few, so
    ****SPOILER****
    The movie handed the MUTO the idiot stick. The female destroyed the train with the nuclear warhead – the one thing it needed to continue laying her eggs. Why did she just leave it?
    Yes, the human’s plan did not survive contact with the MUTOs. That is to be expected. However our plan A involved detonating a several megaton warhead a few miles from San Francisco – why even be with 200 miles of the city in the first place?. As it was it went off less than a mile off shore, probably far less. There should not be a city left. And I may be mistaken, but I think the Pacific side of SF is all cliffs, so the explosion would have had to take place in San Francisco bay, so add Oakland and Berkely to the casualty list

    Well, I don’t like complaining without proposing a solution so –

    Keep the beginning, but let Ford’s father be convincing. Give Dr. Serizawa a more active role. Set the first MOTO/Godzilla confrontation in Japan (Honolulu is a bit small for the scale of descruction). Include the HALO jump here and use this as our reveal of Godzilla. Let the MUTO get the upper hand, but run when it hears the female.

    Chase the MUTO across the Pacific. Set a smaller conflict in Hawaii where the Navy tries to attack it with conventional weapons and fails, which gives them a reason to move up to nuclear weapons.

    The final plan is to move the missile to an easily evacuable region of the coast – maybe using the Moss Landing power station (100 miles south of SF) as bait. The missile is hijacked by the female when it is passing close to SF, and she heads straight there to build a nest. Final fight – Godzilla wins – Ford either deactivates the bomb or rolls it onto a plane heading straight over the Pacific, which allows it to get 100 miles out or so before it blows

    Or maybe I’m overthinking things

    • Ken Zevo

      No, ur not overthinking, good job. Gr8 analysis, and I agree with virtually all your points … and your fixes too. Thx 4 sharing!