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Brotherofthemoon
#1 Posted : Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:23:55 PM


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As I promised (at least to myself) earlier, this is my first serious attempt at a recap. My writing skills are a little rusty at the moment, but this movie has always irritated the hell out of me and it's a perfect excuse for me to tear into it.

Good will always triumph over evil, because evil is dumb.

Das Boot. Just thought I'd get that out of the way. It's pretty much impossible to hold a serious discussion of submarine movies without mentioning it, and I'm probably going to mention it 50 times or so in the process of this recap. The reason? Because it's fucking awesome, in a grimy, depressing German sort of way. U-571, on the other hand, has pretty much been forgotten and relegated to the dust bin of movie history, only occasionally being brought up in comparison to other submarine movies or blasted as an example of How Those Damn Yanks Alter History In Their Movies. U-571 is constantly compared with Das Boot, and for good reason. It's basically the retarded red-headed stepchild that follows Das Boot around and just wants to be like normal people. I've seen the Director's Cut and Uncut versions of Das Boot multiple times in German, read the novel, and even bought a copy of Lothar-Gunther Buchheim's U-boat War...and the biggest question I have about U-571 is this: "What purpose does this movie fill by existing?"

I'm hard-pressed to find one iota of originality in this whole thing. U-571 isn't a movie so much as it's Grandma's moldy two-week old casserole of submarine movie cliches. It combines the Captain-XO tension of Run Silent, Run Deep (that is, if Clark Cable and Burt Lancaster had the charisma of Cheese Wiz), the look and atmosphere of Das Boot, the "grab the boat" plot of The Hunt For Red October, the destroyer-on-U-boat action of The Enemy Below. Mix in lots of evil Nazis, depth charges, torpedoes, enormous gasoline explosions, and nautical jargon, and you've got every submarine movie ever made.

Speaking of Us Damn Yanks, U-571 started a storm of controversy based on the fact that it depicts Americans doing something that the British did in real life. Not only did they capture an intact Enigma machine in early 1941, they managed to capture an intact U-boat a couple months later, sailed it to England, renamed it HMS Graph, and recommissioned it as a Royal Navy submarine. The entire situation could have been avoided by placing a brief scene in the movie where a character explains that the Germans are using a new encoding machine in mid-1942 that the Allies couldn't decipher. This would have been historically accurate, and shut most people up - but I suppose Jonathan Mostow thought the movie needed another endless depth charge bombardment.

Jonathan Mostow - ring a bell? In the past decade, he's given us U-571, Terminator 3, and Surrogates. Compared to Michael Bay, he's merely a second-rate purveyor of painfully mediocre, derivative, big-budget action movies. Less loathsome than the Bayhem, Mostow comes out of the woodwork every now and then and pops out another predictable blow-em-up just in time to pay for the newest addition to his mansion.

But anyway, on with the recap.

Characters

Lt. Andrew Tyler - Matthew McConaughey - The Executive Officer of the S-33, who will eventually face Life And Death Situations Which Will Test His Abilities As A Commander In Wartime(tm). Has two facial expressions.

Lt. Cmdr. Mike Dahlgren - Bill Paxton Personality free Captain of the S-33, who, In The Face Of Extraordinary Circumstances, will demonstrate to Tyler the Importance Of Strong Leadership Required In A Commanding Officer(tm). Drowns while standing on the bottom of a studio water tank.

Chief Petty Officer Henry Klough - Harvey Keitel Utterly bambozzled by the idea that the interior of a German submarine would be "all in German!"

Jon Bon Jovi - Lt. Pete Emmett Is violently decapitated by a flying hatch when the...never mind. They cut that part to receive a PG-13 rating.

The Other Americans - Fearless, proud, and exceptionally exceptional in the field of excellence in all regards. Have nicknames like "Tank," "Trigger," and "Rabbit." Can master the use of unfamiliar weapons systems in under a minute. Most of them end up drowning or getting shot, but damned if I can remember their names.

Zee Germans - Exceptionally stupid and evil ragtag bunch of stupid evildoers who keep getting in the way of the Americans. Couldn't hit shit if they slapped a toilet. They Build incredibly strong submarines, however.

The U-571 - Nearly invincible German U-boat, armed with laser-guided deck guns and atomic torpedoes and bigger on the inside than on the outside. Comes equipped with a plug-and-play interface should a motley skeleton crew of American submariners find themselves onboard. Finally succumbs to hundreds of close depth charges near the end of the movie.

U-571 starts with an opening scroll explaining that the Germans are sinking hundreds of Allied ships and basically making a great big mess of things. Cut to the control room of the titular U-boat, where we see the Captain at the search periscope setting up a shot on an Allied oil tanker. Red light envelops the compartment, as if 500-watt bulbs had been installed. U-571 fires two torpedoes at the tanker, which take about ten seconds to arrive at the target, causing it to explode in the first of many enormous gasoline explosions in the movie. The dreaded Machine That Goes Ping cuts in suddenly, and a British destroyer bears suddenly appears within spitting distance of U-571, bearing down on them at 30 knots.

Historical aside:
Periscope optics of the period were so poor that nighttime attacks were usually conducted on the surface.


After making a mental note to fire the sonar guy after they return to base, the captain orders a crash dive to 60 meters, despite the fact that he could easily go down to 200, and oh yeah, there's a destroyer coming down on them like a dog with a bone in his mouth. Soon enough, depth charges are raining down on the boat, which causes light bulbs to burst, pipes to leak, and everyone gets shaken around a lot. And they come, and come, and come...if any WWII-vintage destroyer could drop this many depth charges at one time, I must have not gotten the note. Unfortunately, one explodes a little too close, which sets off an explosion in the engine room, killing the only two men on the boat who knew how to operate a diesel engine in a better-than-amateurish manner.

Historical aside:
Diesel fuel has a much higher flash-point than gasoline and isn't usually known for exploding violently. Also, I'm pretty sure the Germans cross-trained their submariners in the obscenely unlikely event that a U-boat's entire complement of diesel mechanics were killed in an explosion.

The British destroyer apparently catches a bad case of the crabs from U-571 and makes a bee-line for the nearest hospital. Hey, that's my only explanation for why it's mysteriously disappeared when U-571 pops to the surface a couple minutes after their mechanics gets toasted. The captain (whose name is "Gunther Wassner," which I believe is German for "good water") gets on the radio and requests a supply boat to come to their assistance, and to deliver some fresh sauerkraut while they're at it, too.

Historical aside:
British destroyers by this point in the war had the tenacity of cockroaches. At one point in Iron Coffins, Herbert Werner describes being depth charged for 37 hours. 37 hours. Jesus.


Cut to America and that perennial favorite war-movie cliche, the big going-away party. Big Band? Check. Sailors in pressed white dress uniforms? Check. Token female characters? Coming right up. The main characters being introduced, one at a time, in a series of creaky expositional sequences which deliver nothing more than sketchy character development? Hell yeah. As we're introduced to Lt. Tyler, he's moping around because he's been turned down for command of the S-33 once again. Considering that it's a leaky, 25-year old obsolete chunk of war-torn scrap metal, and the S-boats were notorious for cockroach infestations, the garbage scow Monica Lewinsky would probably be a more prestigious command.

But no. As we learn from Dahlgren, Tyler just doesn't have the guts to go out there and lead his men to glorious victory over the evil Japanazis and score one for ma while singing the Star-Spangled banner in the original key. This is the grand idea that Jonathan Mostow is espousing in this film: that leadership in wartime is difficult, and sacrifices have to be made for the greater good. Thanks for explaining this to me, movie. We're also introduced to Harvey Keitel in this scene, who describes himself as a "sea dog who needs some salt," or considering that he's a lifetime submarine veteran from the First World War, and still a Petty Officer, someone in dire need of a promotion.

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Okay, going to stop this for now and pick it up later. If this utterly sucks, just tell me so.
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, November 04, 2009 10:11:39 PM
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Your writing is more than competent and your command of the facts is impressive. I just think that your hatred for this movie comes from a little too obscure an angle. "Remarkable WWII Geek" isn't a very large segment of the reading population. You've got to expand your criticism beyond being upset at the historical inaccuracies.

Otherwise, while not exactly funny, your recap is a pretty fun read. Especially because I'm a Remarkable Civil War Geek. I mean, anybody can fight a war from two kilometers away encased in armor; try doing it at twenty yards encased in wool.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2009 6:59:14 AM


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 Brotherofthemoon wrote:
We're also introduced to Harvey Keitel in this scene, who describes himself as a "sea dog who needs some salt," or considering that he's a lifetime submarine veteran from the First World War, and still a Petty Officer, someone in dire need of a promotion.


Nitpick: the character was a Chief Petty Officer (E-7). That was as high as you could go as an enlisted man at the time ... E-8 (Senior Chief) and E-9 (Master Chief) weren't established until the late fifties.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:38:12 AM
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God knows, U-571 needs taking apart for the obscenity it is...most of its problems, if not all of them, can boil down to two reasons: Its history is shit and its script is shit as well. I echo a previous respondent: The recap is amusing, not laugh out loud funny but it is well written and that makes it still entertaining.

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#5 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:49:43 PM

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I did toy about reviewing this a few years ago and am deeply thankful that you bit the bullet first, as my head would explode with Historical Realism Rage before the end of the first reel. IIRC, by 1944 the U-boat Threat was more of the U-boat Vague Irritation.

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#6 Posted : Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:45:06 PM


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Since the initial response were positive, I'm going to continue on with this recap. I'll try to cut back on the historical asides...but rest assured, this movie gets stupider as it goes along. MUCH stupider.

But first, a couple characters I missed:

Capt.-Lt. Gunther Wassner - Thomas Kretschmann The evil Nazi captain of U-571, just as incompetent as the other evil Nazis in the movie. Gets rescued by The Americans midway, makes a general nuisance of himself throughout the second half. Gets beaten to death with a hammer.

Seaman Bill Wentz - Jack Noseworthy - Ha, ha...Noseworthy! Is half-German, an incredibly convenient point which the plot abuses. Doesn't want anyone to know he's half-German, even though a quarter of all Americans at the time had some German blood in them and his name begins with a "W" and ends with a "Z."

The next character we're introduced to is Steward Eddie Carson, the Under-appreciated Token Black Guy who will later Prove His Worth In Combat. He also has a goatee, and I'm sitting here wondering...did people have goatees back then? Meanwhile, a group of Military Police (uh, Mr Mostow? The Army has MPs. The Navy uses Shore Patrols) breaks up the party, and the entire crew of S-33 learns that their 48-hour leave has been canceled, causing one seamen to complain that he didn't even have time to consummate his marriage. Gosh, the Greatest Generation were such a wholesome bunch. They didn't smoke (or at least, they didn't inhale), drink, wear fur, use profanity, or do anything that might offend their vengeful God.

While none of the main characters were paying any attention, the ever-resourceful dockworkers at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, one whom is wearing Adidas sneakers, have transformed the S-33 into a near-perfect replica of a "German supply submarine," which in this movie's universe, looks exactly like the U-571 but with two instead of one anti-aircraft guns. So, in about a week, they've managed to build an entirely new conning tower and hull casing for the boat, and welded it into place, in absolutely secrecy. Right.


One of these is a German supply submarine. The other isn't.

Thank God for Rosie The Riveter. That bitch could do anything. Finally, we're introduced to Wentz, who asks Tyler to cover up his German origin lest the crew hate him. Why doesn't he just tell people he's Canadian, like every other ashamed American on vacation says? The S-33 departs from Portsmouth (cue Sweeping Patriotic Music), and we're finally revealed the Big Plan. U-571 is stranded in a location that puts it about 2,000 miles from Portsmouth and about 1,200 miles from Lorient, France, and the S-33 needs to arrive there before a German supply U-boat can come to assist.

The hell? The U-571 is 800 miles closer to occupied France than the American coast, is stranded on the surface and drifting Eastwards into Allied air cover, and the S-33, with a top speed of 13 knots, is going to get there first and capture it? I'd just cancel the mission right now, and call up the British Embassy and very politely ask them if they wouldn't mind capturing another U-boat. The chief Mcguffin - I mean, objective, of the mission is the Enigma machine, and I hate to break it to you Dan Brown fans, the real thing didn't weigh 12 tons. For the the cryptography impaired, here's a Wikipedia article on the thing: Engima machine

So, they've managed to triangulate U-571's position from it's intercepted radio signals. That's perfectly plausible in real life (High Frequency Direction Finding). How the hell then, does Naval Intelligence manage to deduce that the U-571 is crippled, when they can't even decode the radio messages coming from it because they don't possess an Enigma machine in the first place? So, the brave crew of S-33, disguised as a German U-boat, is being sent on a top-secret suicide mission to capture a Nazi decoding/encoding machine, when they've already managed to break into the German naval code.

God, my head hurts.

Historical Aside:
Admiral Ernest King, the Commander-In-Chief of the United States Fleet at the time this movie takes place, was an Anglo-phobic douche who pretty much chose to ignore everything the British tried to tell him about Anti-submarine warfare. As a result, five U-boats sank 25 ships withing spitting distance of the US coast in a single week in early 1942. British naval intelligence spent the previous week screaming at their American counterparts "Look out Yanks! Jerry's comin' with a can 'a whoop-ass right at 'ya!" But King just kinda stood there with his fingers in his ears yelling, and I quote, "convoys and escorts are for shitpants teafaggots who can't stand the sting of battle." So, as you understand, the British still aren't too happy about this movie.
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#7 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2009 6:44:03 PM

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"So, as you understand, the British still aren't too happy about this movie."

You're not kidding! Even mention of "Objective Burma" in a town like Catterick will get you a good tonking.
More seriously, when you say "Portsmouth", could this refer to Portsmouth UK? Just wondering.

The German Surname Gambit simply does not ring true! Even as an ignorant Brit I understand that loads of Americans had German surnames and didn't bother to suffer Plot Angst about it.

I think I'll have to grit teeth and avoid comments for a while, or my Inner Geek will annoy the rest of the forum.
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#8 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2009 10:50:25 PM


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 Conrad2 wrote:


You're not kidding! Even mention of "Objective Burma" in a town like Catterick will get you a good tonking.
More seriously, when you say "Portsmouth", could this refer to Portsmouth UK? Just wondering.


Actually, it's Portsmouth, New Hampshire.

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I still haven't gotten to the part where a half dozen Americans manage to dive a German submarine in about a minute, sink another U-boat with it, and manage to get it back in running order in about two days. Or the utterly ridiculous way they capture it despite being outgunned three-to-one. Or the German destroyer-tug wandering around by itself in Mid-Atlantic. Or the fact that the Northern Approaches are apparently "Jerry's backyard" and the entirety of the Royal Navy and Coastal Command are just sitting on the beaches sipping tea. Or the Obligatory War Crime Scene. Or...

This is going to be rough for you and me.
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#9 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2009 11:45:42 PM

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Off to a stunning start! Do keep up with the historical asides. As someone who a: disliked this movie and b: disliked the history in it even more, I appreciate it. It makes me want to go search for the textbook I used back in 1989 when I took a history class in high school that was nothing but the history of WWII. Ah, the olden days.
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#10 Posted : Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:00:31 AM


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There were bits that the movie got right. For example, Paxton's CO was the spitting image of the CO on my first boat, right down to the dead look in the eyes and the wooden delivery. It wasn't unusual for slightly non-regulation facial hair to sprout up, especially among the non-quals that were mess-cranking ... so the goatee on the steward (did they call them mess specialists in the 40's?) wasn't completely out of line.
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#11 Posted : Saturday, November 07, 2009 7:00:38 PM


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Random Aside:
Popping over to IMDB for a second, it says that if I enjoyed U-571, I might also enjoy Mission Impossible II and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Perhaps therein lies the problem.


The intelligence report being studied by the S-33 officers includes an excellent photograph of an Enigma machine - so the French resistance can get right up to one of the things and take a picture of it, but can’t actually steal one? The next sequence essentially depicts that the S-33 is yes, a rusty old shitbucket. They dive the boat, a maneuver initiated by Harvey Keitel yelling "Dive! Dive! Dive!" and sounding three blasts on the diving alarm. In real life, he’d sound three blasts on the diving alarm to order a surface, and would only say "Dive!" twice upon diving, but since this is the Mostowverse, we don’t see half the crew trying to turn S-33 into the Flying Sub from Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. Anyway, the boat levels off at periscope depth, and during a watertightness test, a pipe starts leaking after being tapped with a hammer. Dahlgren raises one of the periscopes, and water starts pouring out from around it. A sailors asks if S-33 could dive to 150 feet and survive, and an officer replies "she’ll go straight to the bottom if we don’t stop her!" Christ, this whole movie must be pure Fetish Fuel for those creepy World War II geeks that insist that every German war machine ever made was an unstoppable killing machine, and Allied weapons were useless piles of garbage that never worked. I think we call them "Neo-Nazis."

We’re now introduced to S-33’s gang of Redshirts laying in their bunks, all stripped down to the waist and sweaty for the laaaadiess in the audience (those poor, poor laaaadiess who got dragged to this movie by their boyfriends). A group of them are discussing what happens when a submarine goes too deep, and one of them pulls out an egg and crushes it. So let’s mark down another submarine movie cliché in our logbooks: Scaring The New Guy. Based on this conversation, we can deduce that sometime before this movie is over, a submarine is going to dive well below and rated test depth, the hull will creak a lot, and maybe some rivets will pop out. Seriously, was Mostow actually trying to keep us in suspense about that one? In another scene, we see a sailor writing a love letter and staring at a picture of his wife. I’m going to bet he doesn’t make it to the end.

Tyler and Dahlgren (who was wearing the sleeve stripes of a Commander earlier in the movie, but apparently got knocked down to Lt. Cmdr. when no one was looking) share an awfully dull scene together, in which they discuss why Tyler just doesn’t have the awesome Red-White-And-Bluesion Balls of American Steel needed to sock it to those Naughty Nazis for real. It's around this point where the blandness of Matthew McConaughey and Bill Paxton's performances starts getting insufferable. I know the two are rather mercurial actors, and they're both portraying professional military officers, but you could probably replace every scene they have together with William Sylvester's scenes from 2001: A Space Odyssey and not really lose anything. At least Dr. Floyd was amusing in a smug, milquetoast kind of way.

We cut back to U-571, which is still sitting crippled on the surface in mid-Atlantic. By this point, you’d think they’d manage to fabricate a sail, maybe cobble together some oars out of something, or hell, have the entire stand on the stern and blow really hard. Turns out the Kriegsmarine was really just a giant make-work scheme, because none of the crew can make the diesels run for more than five seconds, not even the one that worked on tractors back home.

Historical Aside:
Looking at the book U-boat War Patrol: The Hidden Photographic Diary of U-564, an appendix in the back lists two torpedo mechanics, a chief engineer, a trainee chief engineer, a diesel chief, an electric motor chief, two diesel engineers, two electric engineers, two electric motor mates, four diesel stokers, and three E-motor stokers among the crew. So, did ALL of these guys get killed in that engine room explosion?


One of the lookouts on the bridge spots a British lifeboat approaching, and in the next shot, it’s about 50 yard aways. So a freaking lifeboat just snuck up on them? They ask to be taken prisoner, promising not to eat all the sauerkraut, take up too much room, or complain about the smell. Unfortunately for them, they can’t take any prisoners, so the captain orders them to be machine gunned. The crew protest for a few seconds, but since the Captain is following orders from "the Fuhrer," out comes the MG42 and the gunner massacres everyone in the boat.

It's gonna take more than a little "historical aside" to explain everything that's wrong with this scene. On a film making level, it's purely gratuitous. It has no bearing on the plot whatsoever, besides to provide an Obligatory War Crime Scene, and you could remove it entirely and not miss a thing. The only reason why the scene is even included is to demonize the German characters, in case anyone in the audience had seen Das Boot and might be falsely sympathizing with them, and so we won't feel bad when all of them get killed 15 minutes later. The scene is also bullshit on a historical level: while German U-boats sank nearly 3,000 ships in World War II, there's only one recorded case of survivors being gunned down afterward.

After the movie came out, Mostow tried to hand-wave his way out of this, saying that U-boats "occasionally" machine gunned the survivors of their handiwork, and that the German u-boatmen as a whole were the most fanatical Nazis in the German military. How interesting then, that I haven't found a credible naval historian who will actually confirm the latter statement. Yes, there were hardcore Nazis in the submarine service, but from what I've learned, most of them didn't two shits about politics. Ironically enough, Karl Donitz, the commander-in-chief of the German U-boats, was actually defended by Admiral Chester Nimitz at the Nuremberg Trials, who didn't understand why "unrestricted submarine warfare" was a war crime, since he'd condoned it's use in the Pacific.

Now that I've bored everyone to death, Hitler never actually gave any specific orders about the treatment of survivors. Actually, if he'd been given absolute control over U-boats, the war probably would have been over by 1944. The Laconia Order, which forbid the rescue of survivors by U-boats, wasn't issued until three months after this movie takes place, meaning the Captain Wassner could have rescued those survivors and not gotten into trouble.

So suck on that, Jonathan Mostow.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:39:18 PM


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Hold on folks, we're now entering the Mostowverse.

Oh, and one more thing about the lifeboat scene: the captain could have chosen to abandon the survivors in the ocean and hope they'd either starve or die of dehydration before they could be rescued by the Allies and give away his position. Not exactly the nicest move, but War Is Not Nice. Instead, he committed a gratuitous war crime and left a lifeboat full of a bullet-riddled bodies floating around, just waiting to be exploited by Allied propagandists.

Nice goin', Herr Kaleun.

Cut to nighttime, and the S-33 has picked up the U-571 on radar, even though the exterior shots of the sub don't show a radar apparatus of any kind. The American sub pulls up to within about 100 yards of U-571, and the boarding party, lead by Lt. Tyler, prepares to capture the German boat. They're all disguised as German submariners, and they've brought Wentz along because of his mad German skillz. Most of them are armed with Thompson sub-machine guns - because nothing can go wrong with several people firing off 10 rounds every second in a 10-foot wide metal tube all at once. They all get out in their little rubber rafts and brave the "storm," which the producers all made a big deal about in pre-release publicity. Compared to the storm scene in Master and Commander, it looks like it was filmed in a pond during a mild rain shower.

They slowly approach the U-boat, and approach it, and approach it, and approach it...seriously, I'm not feeling the tension here. A member of the boarding party notices the anti-aircraft gun on U-571, shudders, and announces "they've got guns!" Why, yes, Seaman Swabbie. All submarines of the period did. A sailor on U-571's deck asks if there are any mechanics among them. Wentz replies that they're all mechanics, and they've brought along some fine French pornography. Everyone is shocked by Wentz's mastery of German, although I've been told his pronunciation was so bad he might as well have said they were condemning food, supplies, and things to Rura Penthe. No one on U-571 has yet thought to break out some recognition signals, challenge them with a password, some kind of "Flash-Thunder" thing? Of course, this is the Mostowverse, where the Germans are too dumb to tie their own shoelaces. Nothing more boring than an intelligent adversary to keep the protagonists on their toes.

Tyler and Company finally arrive on U-571's deck, break out their Tommy guns, and proceed to mow down everyone on the deck. They climb up onto the bridge and drop grenades down into the conning tower. Meanwhile, everyone onboard the U-boat has suddenly acquired MP-40s, and proceed to fight back with the tenacity of a blind 10-year old with a BB gun. Even though the Americans are outnumbered two-to-one, and drop down into the control one one at a time, they clear through the boat with ease, mowing down Germans left and right and incurring only one injured man in the process. One of the German officers gets shot about a dozen times at close range, causing to fall over with a grunt and without any visible blood. PG-13-rated war is hell. They open the hatch to the forward torpedo room, where all of the seamen are hiding and promptly surrender. And what do you know? Despite the hundreds of bullets flying around, not a single person is hit by a ricochet, or seems to be bothered by all the noise such a firefight would create.

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Lt. Tyler: "How many times do I have to demonstrate to you...your guns are worthless against me!"


Having secured U-571, the Americans load the boat with explosives and prepare to scuttle her. Hey, shouldn't they get the Enigma machine off first? Good thing the crew didn't destroy it or the code books while they were adrift for the past week. That would have made sense and been perfectly reasonable. While the prisoners are being brought onboard S-33, the Token Black Guy goads one of the prisoners by asking him if he'd never seen a black man before. You go, Jon Mostow. I'm glad someone finally had the balls to take on the Nazi persecution of Non-Aryans. Those bastards always got off too easy in older movies. Kudos for using a mess steward held back from advancement due to his race to deliver the message, too! Suddenly, someone spots a torpedo approaching, and the S-33 explodes in a gigantic gasoline fireball, which kills almost everyone aboard. Serves 'em right for covering the boat in the same stuff the Hindenburg was. Bon Jovi (who is actually forth billed, but I can't actually remember what his character did in the movie) gets his head blown off by a flying hatch. The camera zooms in on Tyler's face, giving us a good look at McConaughey's other facial expression, a combination of shock, horror, and having just seen a grown man naked.

But Captain Dahlgren is still alive! He's standing on the bottom of the studio water tank, frantically yelling "Throw me a fucking rope! Throw me a fucking rope or I'll bust you back to Ensign when we get back!" Unfortunately, due to Tyler's Tinnitus he hears this as "Take the conn! Take the conn, you magnificent bastard!" Dahlgren stops making I Dream of Jeannie hand movements and sinks like a rock. Tyler is now in a bind - he has to destroy the other German submarine before it can radio a message back to HQ saying that the Enigma has been compromised. Unfortunately, he's onboard a foreign vessel, has only a skeleton crew, and there's no way they can figure out how to operate the thing before getting blown out of the water. Harvey Keitel is running through the Control Room screaming "it's all in German!"

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Fortunately for them, Wentz has been onboard the U-571 the whole time, and they master the boat's insanely complicated flooding, trimming, and compressed air systems in about 60 seconds. "Klar" is German for "clear" and that's really all they need to know. They manage to dive the boat, which has taken dozens of close depth charges, several grenades, and hundreds of bullets, faster than her original crew could make it. Furthermore, they manage to do everything in the right order, and no one turns the wrong hand-wheel and send the previously crippled boat plummeting to the bottom. That's American ingenuity for you. But now the real German supply submarine is hunting them. It fires two torpedoes at U-571, which miss by about three inches. One of the torpedo tubes onboard U-571 starts screeching like Frankie Vallie, and they hurriedly fire off two torpedoes at the other sub. They miss, and they fire another two torpedoes. Even though they can't see the other sub, or obtain the range, course, or speed of it, one of the torpedoes hits the supply sub, destroying it in a rare explosion that doesn't involve huge quantities of gasoline.

Historical Aside:
The U-864 was sunk by a British submarine in February, 1945, the only instance in World War II of a submerged submarine attacking another. Both boats were at periscope depth, unlike in this movie, where both subs are well below periscope depth and can't see each other.


U-571 comes back to the surface to search for survivors. They find Dahlgren's body floating around, so I guess he didn't really sink the bottom of the water tank. They rescue Captain Wassner, who passes himself off as an electrician, and Eddie Carson, who wasn't fat after all, he just had excessive reserve buoyancy. Despite being the only one onboard who can operate the boat, they handcuff him to a bunk and hope that nothing goes wrong. Hmm...anyone think this decision will later come back to haunt them?




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#13 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2009 2:49:37 PM

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About those grenades - surely one or two of those splendid American White Phosphorus grenades would do the job far better than HE ones? The entire sub crew would be asphyxiated in seconds without anything being damaged.

Ah - but then you couldn't have a nerve-shredding high-octane gun battle, could you? Bite your tongue and carry on!
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#14 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2009 6:23:56 PM

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This reminds me. I liked Master and Commander, which I believe puts me in company with about four other people on the planet.
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 Conrad2 wrote:
About those grenades - surely one or two of those splendid American White Phosphorus grenades would do the job far better than HE ones? The entire sub crew would be asphyxiated in seconds without anything being damaged.


Nah. It's those magic Hollywood grenades that make a great big boom, don't damage anything, and kill people instantly, leaving a pretty little non-disemboweled body on the ground.

On a vaguely related note, I finally entered the 21st century yesterday and bought a new widescreen, flat-screen, HDTV. Best Buy was playing U-571 as a demo disc on one of their home theater setups, and I was tempted to just stand there like an asshole riffing on it, but decided not to make a scene. The subsim.com crew already know me as one of the most 'Spergtastic naval enthusiasts out there, and I didn't feel like spreading the love.

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This reminds me. I liked Master and Commander, which I believe puts me in company with about four other people on the planet.


Hey, don't feel alone. I like it too, although my mother seems to enjoy it more than I do. Gotta love a movie where solid shot doesn't explode in a giant fireball just for once.

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#16 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:49:08 AM
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 TheWilyBadger wrote:
This reminds me. I liked Master and Commander, which I believe puts me in company with about four other people on the planet.


You are not alone, just in the wrong part of the world. In the UK the movie is well thought of and there are 1000s of Patrick O'Brian fans who think the movie is well done (despite some misgivings about changing the enemy ship from American to French just to please American audiences). I think people in some areas of the US might not like it because a) it doesn't appeal to your 15-25 age group and b) who in America cares for a story set in the Napoleonic wars featuring British heroes? (that is possibly related to point a).

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#17 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:56:51 PM

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 Brotherofthemoon wrote:
On a vaguely related note, I finally entered the 21st century yesterday and bought a new widescreen, flat-screen, HDTV. Best Buy was playing U-571 as a demo disc on one of their home theater setups, and I was tempted to just stand there like an asshole riffing on it, but decided not to make a scene. The subsim.com crew already know me as one of the most 'Spergtastic naval enthusiasts out there, and I didn't feel like spreading the love.


Hey! I just did that myself a couple weeks back! Bought a nice 42" Dynex. It's not the best TV out there, but it was only $500 and works quite well! Nice to be able to see my movies in vivid HD... well, unless it's something like Sunrise. :)
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