VIDEO: 2019, After the Fall of New York (1983)

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Cecil reviews another of his favorite post-apocalyptic flicks, 2019, After the Fall of New York, a cheesy Franco-Italian cash-in on Escape from New York, Planet of the Apes, and maybe that Billy Joel song, too. After a nuclear war, the entire human race is rendered sterile. It’s up to a mercenary named Parsifal (not a typo) to infiltrate the ruins of New York City and find the last fertile woman on earth.

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  • edharris1178

    Oh hell yeah!  I reviewed this on my blog a while back, an outstanding piece of Italian action cinema.  George Eastman is fantastic and some of the sets used (the brewery) were used in Warrior of the Lost World.

    • Cecil_Trachenburg

      George Eastman is classic. He always adds a nice bit of credibility to any movie.

      Oh, Warrior of the Lost World. I can’t watch that without MST3K anymore. Not that its a bad movie, there are far worse PA flicks, its just even if I watch the vanilla film, I still think of the goofs.

  • Sofie Liv

    I honestly did think “Children of men.” the moment you said no one had born a child for fifteen years, and through-out the review I admit guilty in trying to find as many similarities between the two movies as possible.. and there was a few.

    Hehe, funny coincidence, I just saw planets of the apes again the other day. Talk about movie where things just ends up working in the end 🙂 

    • Cecil_Trachenburg

      Yep, there are quite a few. It doesn’t make CoM a bad movie, all kids of movies borrow from other sources. It’s just funny to think that this well regarded, award winning movie has its basic structure taken from a knock off 80s PA flick.

      • Sofie Liv

         You know, that fact is down-right glorious in my book XD

        • Cecil_Trachenburg

           🙂

  • maarvarq

    I know the name Parsifal from the Wagner opera of the same name, and presumably its use here was an allusion to that (Fertile woman=Holy Grail, maybe?). According to Wikipedia, someone fed Wagner a line about Percival being a Persian name originally.

    • Cecil_Trachenburg

      There was a director’s commentary on the disk that had to be removed because someone on the commentary called out someone by name. I’m sure there was probably a good bit of info on there that would have covered and answered such things.

      The name has to have some sort of greater meaning, it is far too out there. Especially considering the other character names were Ratchet, Bronx, Melissa, Shorty, Giatta, and Big Ape.

  • The Eurax all look Darth Vader cosplaying as Kendo Nagasaki. This is what we have to deal with in seven years time folks. Oh well, we got outlaw car racers in three years. Maybe you could review that film if you get the reference Dark Knight Trachenburg.

    • Cecil_Trachenburg

      Wow, that is an awesome reference mix. ^^

      I’m still waiting for the Death Race 2000 future.

      • Never thought you’d see Star Wars, British pro wrestlers and Firebird in the same sentence did you? There have been stranger comment threads though.
        Honestly, I only know about Firebird 2015 AD because it was on a ’50 Worst Movies Ever Made’ show. So maybe it won’t make your show then since it’s not bad enough to be good?

        • MephLord

          Do you think the Ali G movie qualifies for this series?  I thought it was bad bad, but it has its fans I just don’t get the humour I suppose.

          • Ali G Indahouse is bad bad? I don’t know about that. I thought it had a funny premise and it’s set up as a proper movie like The Dictator unlike Bruno and Borat which were reality fiction like Baron Cohen’s shows and sketches were. The contrast of Ali G’s ‘innit’ idiocy and Michael Gambon and Charles Dance’s poncy Parliamentary attitudes. Sure it may not be as funny as interviewing real life figures and seeing who’s the real moron in the situation but I still look back on it with fond memories. Martin Freeman acting like a wigger and beatboxing is a laugh on it’s own.

          • MephLord

            Good comments and I agree that it’s among Cohen’s better works, but I still wonder if it fits with the rest of the movies in this series.  Sasha clearly intends to make his movies parody modern television and social diatribes and attitudes so I can’t really hate the guy but his movies also end up predictable parodies.  Bruno or Borat might be better suited for European reviewers to cover since the audience, while intended probably for North America, might have a more critical view from European reviewers like Sofie or Sursum.  Blockbuster Chick reviews big budget stuff so she’d have no reason to ever look at Cohen movies.

            Liam recapping Bruno however, would be awesome I’d so love to see that.

          • It is simple-minded and predictable but then again, the Farrelly Brothers movies are that way in my eyes (There’s Something About Mary is an exception) but they still have laugh out loud funny moments. Baron Cohen’s movies have the same effect. They are immature but most of that is placed to point out our own immaturity. That is one of the ways I like to view satire. Holding the mirror up to us and saying: “You really are this dumb at times aren’t you?”

            I’d actually like to see Cheap Arse look at Ali G Indahouse because it’s sort of similar to King Ralph. Moron gets put into position of power surrounded by the British ruling classes played by classically trained actors i.e. Gambon and Dance to King Ralph’s Peter O’Toole and John Hurt.

            I’m sure Baron Cohen will have his day in the Agony Booth court because his work is polarising. I’m on the Like pole as opposed to the hate pole.

        • Cecil_Trachenburg

          That was an amazing all encompassing mix of genres. My hat is off to you!

          I have a bad VHS copy of Firebird 2015 AD. Its pretty terrible but entertainingly so. I was planning on doing it at some point but I wanted to get the other, better PA flicks out there first. (1990 Bronx Warriors, New Barbarians, etc) I saw the 50 worst movies thing and many of the movies on there are far from terrible!

          • I disagreed with Plan 9 being so high on the list but that’s probably because the film Ed Wood endeared me to his optimistic hopelessness. Ishtar was on there but that’s been done here. Black Belt Jones actually looked quite funny. It’s blaxploitation but even the narrator said it had good fight scenes and clever quips and that it was the only entry that was so bad it’s good, whereas now, almost the whole list has been reviewed or has a cult following somewhere.

          • Cecil_Trachenburg

            I think it was just a given. Most likely the person who did the video never even saw the film. Its like when people talk about “the worst movie ever” most of the time they are just repeating what they heard someone else say.

            I’m with you on Plan 9, at least Ed Wood poured his soul into trying to make these movies, he just wasn’t good at it. I’d sooner watch a movie like that then the majority of these 200+ million dollar cash grabs.

            Anyway, Troll, Howard the Duck, Blackbelt Jones, TNT Jackson, The Incredible Melting Man, Firebird 2015 A.D., Xanadu, Leonard Part 6, Galaxy of Terror, The Swinging Cheerleaders, The Three Stooges in Orbit, The Crippled Masters, The Sorceress, The Thing With Two Head, and The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living And Became Mixed Up Zombies should not be on this list. There are far worse piles of garbage that cost more then all of these movies combines that should be on there. 

          • edharris1178

             Absolutely.  Galaxy of Terror is actually pretty good.  A bit squicky in places but still nowhere near one of the 50 worst movies of all time.

          • Cecil_Trachenburg

            Its a cool gross out sci-fi flick. I think the people who did this list have no idea what a real bad movie is.

            Also, don’t forget Galaxy of Terror was the movie that launched James Cameron’s career. He worked as a second unit director, which directly lead to him getting the job on Piranha 2 and then The Terminator.

          • edharris1178

             It also has an early role for Robert Englund.  Plus, any movie where Joanie from Happy Days has her head explode can’t be considered “bad.”

  • MephLord

    Am I the only one that instantly thought, based on the movie premise “Wait, no worry about having kids?  How is that a bad thing” had his or her mind go right in the gutter?

    • Cecil_Trachenburg

      You know, that would be an interesting premise for the whole “infertile world” movies. Perhaps everyone is trying so hard to have kids a new virus arises and spreads almost unchecked, which diminishes the population even more since we aren’t repopulating.

  • FullofQuestions1

    Hey Cecil, there’s a movie called “Space Truckers” sitting in my dad’s VHS tapes that’s pretty silly and a lot of fun. Could it ever be a review you do?

    • Cecil_Trachenburg

      Wow, you must have some sort of bad movie telepathy. A few weeks ago when I was deciding what to do this week I almost went with Space Truckers but decided to push that one off until later in the year. Get out of my head! 😛

      So yes, I will be doing this. It’s yet another great flick from Stuart Gordon.

      • Grumpypants

         Holy crap, I love Space Truckers.  “You know, for a son-of-a-bitch, gimp rapist murderer… he died ok!
        ”  Bring it on! 

        • Cecil_Trachenburg

          Yes! Expect Space Truckers…probably in the fall.

  • CBob

    I wonder why the “futuristic” costumes in pulp sci-fi are so often so blatantly based on medieval clothing. You see it all the time in B-movies, TV shows, and comic books. I know it must be hard to come up with totally new designs that look different without looking goofy, but why is it always the same  medieval cloaks and Robin Hood tunics and pirate boots and random
    bits of knight armor look (especially since it fails anyway by still looking goofy)?

    At least in the really cheap movies/shows there’s the excuse that they can’t afford to actually make costumes and have to just kluge together stuff from the rental warehouse, but that doesn’t explain productions where the costumes are obviously custom made, or comic books where it’s all drawings anyway and so can be anything.

    • Ssscott3001

      In a post-apocalypse situation, you’re probably cobbling clothing together from what you can find.
      Robes are easy to make from scavenged materials without much tailoring skill… they’re also pretty decent at keeping the rain off, and the loose fit allows layering underneath for cold weather or nothing underneath for airflow-cooling in hot weather. Pretty much the reasons they became common in the past.
      If anything, I find clothing in PA movies to often be too well-made — especially the well-tailored skimpy outfits on the girls and the brand-new-except-for-dust factory-made boots on many men.
      Not nearly as bad as the infinite supply of century-old ammunition and gasoline, though. 🙂

      • CBob

        That explains the robes in a general sense, but only the robes and only in post apocalyptic scenarios: it does nothing to address advanced non-post apocalyptic futures or gold-to-bronze age
        superhero costumes. Even then, it’s not the same as the whole romantic medieval style thing I was commenting on. In a real post apocalyptic setting, I’d expect the first generation or two to look more or less like modern homeless, after that for a bit maybe more like 18th/19th century frontier or modern Amish. I generally think unless the Apocalypse is an actively ongoing thing rather than a discrete event, society would actually regroup and start rising again much faster than is usually seen in movies.

        It’s kind of worse in this movie because it’s really a “distopian future” movie, not a “post apocalyptic” movie. It only gets categorized as post apocalyptic because it borrows style and action cues from post apocalyptic movies. The destitute shmo’s in the fallout zones are living the post apocalyptic life, but the civilization as a whole is highly advanced, regularly space-faring, and logistically & materially capable. It’s just in an asymmetric social decline because of the “can’t have kids” thing, not a post apocalypse (…like Children of Men… only bumped forward a century or two). 

        …And with the exception of the circus apes, the people living in the fallout zones actually do look like their costumes are made from scavenged leftovers. Eighties leftovers, but still. It’s mostly the mooks and bigwigs of the two still high-tech and wealthy factions that’re rockin’ the Keith Parkinson look.

      • Cecil_Trachenburg

        lol gotta love how they still have gasoline years after the refineries have been shut down.  My personal favorite is all the people with perfect white teeth and often the hero/heroine has nice clean bouncy hair and not messy matted gunk.

        • CBob

          Oh god, Planet of the Apes remake flashback! I remember thinking this very thing about whatserface- the cave girl who’s sole reason for existing was to be a token shipping alternative for audience members who couldn’t handle Marky-Mark kissing the monkey. I remember sitting in the theater wondering just where in the jungle primeval she managed to find a lipstick sales counter.

          • Cecil_Trachenburg

            Hahahah, exactly. She looked great in a world where their leaders needed flea and tick baths. Although this was just one of the many problems with that god awful remake.

    • Cecil_Trachenburg

      A lot of these Post Apocalyptic movies had this look because they could just take regular clothes, tatter them up and you have costumes. Plus, there were lots of medeval type movies filmed around that time so they borrowed props back and forth. (hence the goofy outfits)

      As far as locations, there were so many run down buildings and other destroyed places they just picked a location and said they were there.

  • Barbara LeMaster

    Regarding this being a knock-off of “Children of Men”; didn’t the novel by PD James come before this film?  

    • Cecil_Trachenburg

      Nope. The book was published in 1992. 2019 was released in 1983.

  • Sometimes different movies can have very similar concepts. The “Escepe from Bronx” mentioned in this review had similarities with 1993’s “Robocop 3” – in both movies brutal mercenaries hired by greedy corporation were forcing people to move out of slums. I wonder, if Frank Miller (writer of the script for “Robocop 3”) was influenced by that cheap Italian PA movie…